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Section "Comments from overseas" needs changes. Moving to Talk until resolved.

The section "Comments from overseas" has several problems. I'm moving it to Talk in toto until they're fixed.

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Comments from overseas==

Henry Miller is more like a figure described and predicted by litterateur than a litterateur himself. He is a copy of the American in the novel The Ambassadors. Naive American bumpkin went to Paris and captured by the superficial dedicated European culture. Then gradually corrupted and became a hollow man, losing his pursuit and covering his emptiness and confusion with more and more detailed life experience. The greater his achievement is, the more distant he is away from home. Henry Miller is such an figure. His real life is more interesting than the literature figures he created in his works. -------- William Liu

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[1] "Overseas" relative to where? Wikipedia is a global enterprise, so no place is "overseas" from the POV of Wikipedia. Miller lived part of his life in the USA and part in Europe, so neither is it clear that this quote is from "overseas" relative to either of those places.

[2] This quote needs to have an actual cite. What work is this from? What page number?

[3] The quote seems to be uncomfortably added to the article. Perhaps it would be better to add it to Wikiquote instead? (With a good cite.)

-- 189.122.198.138 (talk) 17:16, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Opening sentence is not English ?

The opening sentence "Henry Valentine Miller (December 26, 1891 – June 7, 1980) was an American writer, expatriated in Paris at his flourishing" isn't, it seems to me, a sentence.

If I understood how to use History better than I do I would make an edit to take the sentence back to whatever it used to say but unfortunately I don't know how to do that.

Maybe someone could do one of the following ?

Tell me I'm wrong and that the sentence is correct, albeit obscure.
Formulate a new sentence which serves the purpose better than the current one does.
Find out what the opening sentence used to say and change it back to that

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Southof40 (talk • contribs) 08:27, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Southof40: I agree, that lead sentence is awful. I'm going to cut "expatriated~" out of it for now because even just "~was an American writer." is better than what we have now. ~ Anotheranothername (talk) 10:03, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Genealogy

Some sources have his mother's maiden name as Nieting, not Neiting. (May also originally have been Gneiting, all three spellings are German family names.) Could these be his parents: Henry Miller Jr, born ~1865 in New York, and Louise Nieting, who were married 1890-11-26 in Manhattan? (source: New York marriage register[1][2]) The middle name Valentine supports this, as it's the name of Louise's father.--92.77.218.26 (talk) 12:24, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]