Talk:Lost (2001 TV series)

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On 14 June 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Lost (game show) to Lost (2001 TV series). The result of the discussion was moved.

Disambiguation

This article and Lost (2004 television series) have been moved to disambiguate by year of broadcast rather than by television network. It's Americentric to disambiguate by network -- American TV series do air in other countries as well, and non-Americans cannot and should not be expected to know what American network originated the series. Bearcat 18:59, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

UK version?

I seem to remember Channel 4 in the UK doing a UK version of Lost (with British contestents, not in the UK ;)). Is this another case of Brits inventing a reality tv format and then selling it to a US network? --81.134.132.242 1 July 2005 11:29 (UTC)

2nd set of episodes?

What do you mean by "contestants had to go back via an island". I didn't know that the Travel Channel aired a second set of episodes. I am curious about them and what we learned about the contestant's travels. Can you clarify this statement? Thanks. Tvgeek

When travelling from Bolivia to New York, they were told that they could only board a plane once they had reached a Caribbean island. As far as I remember, two teams chose Tobago and the other chose Trinidad. Stifle 23:39, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I recall seeing the second set on the Travel Channel too...and knew they had to reach a Caribbean island too.--PatrickD (talk) 03:46, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

E! revival

Can someone verify this? First I've heard of it. Lambertman 18:47, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fox Reality Channel in the US airs both the first and second games from time to time. It's an excellent show and worth watching...especially if you like The Amazing Race. --PatrickD (talk) 00:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [1]. --Maniwar (talk) 01:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Centralized TV Episode Discussion[reply]

Requested move 14 June 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 05:51, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lost (game show) → Lost (2001 TV series) – Per WP:NCTV, this is not a "game show", but rather a reality competition series, which we disambiguate using "TV series". See Survivor#Series/The Amazing Race (American TV series) for similar reality competition examples. Using the year to avoid confusion with the narrative TV series Lost (TV series) and because the article covers both the U.S. and UK versions that both premiered in 2001. -- Netoholic @ 05:36, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose this is more of a game show, not a reality show RMXY (talk) 01:32, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It has none of the hallmarks of a typical game show. This series is not produced in a studio, there is no host actively directing a game between contestants. We absolutely have long-standing precedence that reality competition shows are disambiguated as (TV series) because they include episode-to-episode narrative structure. I defy you to find anything similar to justify your vote - feel free to start here: Category:American reality television series. -- Netoholic @ 03:40, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Wikipedia's in-house definition of game show is wrong. The Game Show Show even explicitly shows these other forms of Game Show, and the term "Japanese Game Show" (such as used in I Survived a Japanese Game Show) is widespread also showing these other forms of game show. Wikipedia assumes that gameshows are only quiz shows, which has never been the case. Wikipedia also assumes that there are no serially connected episodes for game shows, which is also cleary wrong, since many game shows feature competitions spanning several episodes, or have tournaments. Wikipedia's very parochial and idiosyncratic definition doesn't match reality. -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 05:41, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think, more significant than any other differences, that a reality competition show spends a good deal of screen time with the participants in non-competitive settings - showing personal conflicts, backstories, side stories, etc. -- all selectively edited into a narrative arc for each "character". A game show's time is almost exclusively devoted to showing the competition. -- Netoholic @ 06:56, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Wikipedia's in-house definition of game show (which is factually wrong, considering our articles on I Survived a Japanese Game Show and The Game Show Show show that people outside of Wikipedia have more expansive definitions) it isn't a game show, since its not a game show. And per our in-house definition of game shows, game shows do not serially connect with each other. "TV series" is a better disambiguator, as game shows, such as quiz shows also occur on radio and on stage as a live stage show. Wikipedia should not conflate the concept of TV quiz show with the more general topic of game show. -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 05:41, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support for consistency with the titles of other Lost TV series articles. All the others are identified by years. The RM for Lost (TV series) has now closed, and it has been moved to Lost (2004 TV series). If this one is borderline between "game show" and "TV series", it is best to use "TV series" for consistency. Evidence has been given by Netaholic to show that other similar shows use "TV series" as well, and Netaholic also points out that the show is episodic and not exclusively devoted to showing the competition. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:29, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.