Talk:Teen Titans (TV series)

Robin's identity/Secret Identities/Continuity

ATTENTION EDITORS: There have been several edits in the past couple of months to these sections that contain unsoruced material that are basically episode plot summaries used to defend one position or the other. Please remember that Wikipedia policy is to cite your sources and that for a work of art like a television show the work itself cannot be the source. Information contained in these sections should be restrained to verifiable third party information like a critical review of the show or a direct quote from a writer/creator. --malber 18:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

The comment about a cartoon network employee saying its Tim Drake, in context, was reffering to the current comic run, not the animated series. It should be removed. -SA-

"Teen Titans producer Glen Murakami has stated in various interviews that although he originally intended for this Robin to be Dick Grayson, the animated Teen Titans Robin actually has no secret identity. " Bullcrap, they just messed up and wanted to cover their arse. Other than that, there is an episode where a robin from an alternate dimension comes to help robin because he broke his arm. This alternate dimensional characters name is Dick Grayson. However in the show the character changes it's name to lefty or something with the letter L. --Cyberman 03:06, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Can we please get over this issue? I'm satisfied with the comment by the series producer that the there is no intent to have a "secret identity" for the characters. If you want to have a debate about character secret identities and want to point out specific episodes where there is a hint of an identity, then please move it to a fan based forum. My opinion is that any reference to a character's secret identity is meant as an inside joke by the writers. --malber 16:50, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

I think the only reason this is a question is because if it's supposed to be something that happens after BTAS, it must be Tim Drake, but most would argue this takes place wholly in another universe, especially since Batman is nowhere to be seen.

Two more hints that it might be Dick Grayson: 1) Michael Rosenbaum is going to supply the voice of Kid Flash. On Justice League Unlimited, he does the voice of The Flash who, in the comics, was the third Flash and served as Kid Flash in his teens and was Grayson's best friend; 2) At Comic-Con 2005 a kid (only kids were allowed to ask questions) asked what Robin's real name was. I think it was David Slack who said to watch the "Fractured" episode and pause where he first announces his name as Nosyarg Kcid. Epiphone83 20:32, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

I should also state that I can't put the latter piece of info into the article, as I think it qualifies as "original research."

Batman hasn't made an appearance, but Wayn Enterprises has —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.191.228 (talk) 14:31, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

One thing everyone should keep in mind is that Wikipedia is about NPOV and cited sources, not original research. Unless there's a cited source establishing the secret identities of the characters, I think the Murakami quote is sufficient to keep things ambiguous. The show itself cannot be a source, so any hints or inside jokes that have been put in the show are just that, to tease the viewer. --malber 01:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I saw that you deleted by addition to Continuity regarding items revealed in the episode Go. I agree that I should not have phrased it as an episode synopsis, but I believe that information revealed in that episode is important to mention. I'd like to see it included in some form. --echocharlie 01:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I removed the paragraph because it was basically a plot summary of an episode. Sure "Go" establishes how the Titans became a team, but it doesn't resolve the continuity issue. I don't think we're going to find an answer in the show itself because the creators keep this issue ambiguous on purpose. I think this section already contains enough information about the show to conclude that there is no, and probably never will be an answer for the question of continuity. --malber 10:45, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

This section is yet again growing with uncited speculation. I believe it may be time to reign in here. --malber 01:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I support that. While the issue probably needs a mention, enough is enough, and original research must be purged. --InShaneee 03:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I think its pretty stupid how they try and make you think that Robin is not the DC comic Robin. My brother watches some show called "Static Shock", and in the show the character meets Batman and when he does he asks Batman where robin is and Batman tell him that Rocin is with the Teen Titans. 75.57.163.147 01:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I was about to add that, in one of the earlier episodes of Static Shock in which Batman makes a cameo, Virgil asks where Robin is and Batman states he is doing stuff with the Titans. 97.99.25.214 17:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I can't remember the exact episode now, but there is a sequence where Beastboy refers to Robin's older brother and the bad brother. I think it is in the first meeting with Red X. Also in the standard DC continuity Tim Drake has implyed that he might continue the work of Batman, but not under that name. I someone might help me find the episode, because that implies that it is Tim Drake who is Robin. It would at least help the statement the producer made that they dind't aim at a particular Robin, but it is also the clearest hint I have seen.

In the episode 'Fractured' an extradimensional Robin appears, and when he explains his connection to Robin the name Dick Grayson scrolls in the background.

In the episode "X" Beastboy tries to explain how Red X and Robin can be in the same place. On the whiteboard two solutions he presents are "lost brother" and Jason Todd. It might just be an in-joke, but it also implies that Robin is Tim Drake as Dick Grayson quit being Robin Before Jason Todd appeared.

One episode of "Static Shock" (season 2, "The Big Leagues") features Static meeting Batman in the Dick Grayson era. When Static asked "Where's Robin?", Batman responds with, "He's with the Titans now." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:482:8003:87CC:E968:6514:19C9:FD73 (talk) 18:04, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Cancellation

So it appears likely that the show has been cancelled (though not yet reported on IMDB). It would be nice to have a much more reputable source for this than a fan site. However, CN is notorious for not releasing press reports about canceled shows (see Samurai Jack). I think the sentence on this should be toned down. As it stands right now it seems a bit POV pushing. A show's cancellation, no matter how emotional you are about it, is a factual event that should be reported NPOV.--malber 11:47, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

I think the current season is already an extension and last season was originally intended to be the final one. I could be wrong, however.Epiphone83 20:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

• Comics Continuum posted the airdates of the last three episodes of Season 5. I just changed the series' end date to the air date of the last episode since this seems to be the last season. It has also been stated (although I don't think officially yet) that Robin will be coming to the next season of The Batman. source --Homestar14 19:50, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• I just heard that the dates for the final three episodes were wrong, and they will be airing later than previously stated. Titans Tower will be posting the correct airdates tomorrow. We can probably leave the end date how it is until then. --Homestar14 3:42 16 December 2005 (UTC)

• Okay. Titans Tower has posted the airdates of the last three episodes. It seems the last episode Things Change will air on February 4th. I changed the series end date to match that date. --Homestar14 20:13 16 December 2005 (UTC)

When someone went and put Terra in the list of Titans, the editor royally screwed up the tables for those sections. I had to dig deep for the revision, and the cancellation section was missed. This material needs to be reintroduced into the article. --malber 10:55, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Since the presumed last show date is in the future, and Cartoon Network has not released an official notice on this subject, and that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball I think we should wait on including the information about the show being cancelled. --malber 11:19, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

• Titans Tower letter writing campaign to save season six

• For a guy who has worked in and around the business as long as Wheaton has, he knows shockingly little. A) WB Animation (Feature) has no control over the cancellation of a series WBA (TV) does b) Warner Bros animation, while a studio, is essentially a production company - Cartoon Network is in charge of renewing or not renewing a series and THEY did not renew it - WBA had nothing to do with the cancellation. It's like blaming Warner Bros. for cancelling Scrubs, not NBC (Scrubs is NOT cancelled - it's just an example). One makes it - the other airs it. In fact, CN has pretty much cut all ties with the TV series WBA makes (JLU, TT and Krypto). Nothing like a dude with a blog and a lack of information to spread misinformation.

It's even stated this way in articles as early as this one... [1]--Raltorn 02:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Agreed with the above comments by Raltorn. I have spoken directly with members of the production team and can attest to the fact that Wil Wheaton's comments were incorrect and baseless. I have made corrections to the "Cancellation" section to hopefully stop further rumors. I also edited the sentence "Reports of layoffs at the WB studios may have also contributed to the show's cancellation" because it doesn't make any sense. TheMagnificentHazo 04:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Terra

Folks, and fanboys and fangirls, Terra was never a permanent memeber of the Titans. She is, for all intents and purposes, dead. She does not belong in the list of founding Titans. Note that this is also concurrent with the comics storyline. --malber 13:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I don't think we know that for a fact either. However, why is she under the villains page? Colonel Marksman 22:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Because she was working for Slade in every episode she appeared in save one. --InShaneee 23:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

• Hmm. I suppose. I was just thinking about the very last episode with her as an overall "?" for this disscussion. Have to admit, she is a very, um, "controversial" character, with a mix of feelings from the audience. (E.g., is she really the evil, terrible villian, or what?) Colonel Marksman 14:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

• Malber, I don't know if you work for the show, so if you are, please excuse me for someone who don't know better. I think you shouldn't have removed her footnote, and completely obliterating Terra -a major character- from the article is uncalled for. I have seen arguments here regarding Terra's true side, so I wrote the footnote for Terra to solve the problem. The footnote explains that readers shouldn't take the article's word for it, because the discussion is in truth open to worldwide fan speculations (not just the opinions of the few of us here in Wiki), and also because the writers of the show themselves deliberately left it to pure fan speculation. They said so themselved in an interview. In my case, I believe my footnote justified. I would strongly suggest putting Terra back in the article along with the explanatory footnote. - Clockword

Just revert it, dudester. --Chris Griswold 12:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Someone removed Terra again.

That's because everything you put about her was fan speculation, which is not acceptable content. --InShaneee 19:04, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Not to mentioned she's very underused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.135.241 (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

"Go"

I'm inclined to remove the newly added paragraph about this ep, but I'd like some other opinions first. It really doesn't add anything to the discussion on the series' place in continuity (nor could it, as far as I see), and if it were to offer any more detail than it already does (say, to explain HOW it was starfire learned to speak english), we'd be going outside the scope of this article. If there's no opposition in a few days, I'll go ahead and remove it myself. --InShaneee 03:32, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

• Actually, I was thinking exactly the same thing. I agree with you--it's not really important enough to warrant its own paragraph. Even if it were to be elaborated, I don't feel it really belongs here, anyway. Gemtiger 04:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

The episode Go serves as a prequel to the series, showing the first meeting of the main characters. In it, a thief alludes to Robin's mentor, but not by name, and Robin replies that he's working solo now. The episode also reveals several other bits of information. It explains how Starfire knows how to speak English despite being an alien, why Beast Boy stopped wearing his Doom Patrol mask, how Cyborg's Sonic Blaster came to be, and how the Titans chose the site for their tower.

— Unknown, From article

I removed the paragraph, but archived it here. If someone feels that this can be reworked to include in the Continuity section, please do. However, IMO I feel this section does not need more material from the show itself, it needs more verifiable cited sources. It needs a quote from Bruce Timm on the question of crossovers. I feel that the quote from Murakami in the section above implies that the show is outside of and independent from the DCAU continuity, but doesn't state this directly. --malber 10:50, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Bruce Timm

The following information was moved from the infobox to here:

(Note: Even though he was the creator of all previous post 1990 DC animated shows, Bruce Timm was the producer of this show and not one of it's creators)

--malber 23:36, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Trouble in Tokyo

• sigh* Does anyone have any references for anything about this movie? --InShaneee 03:25, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I didn't see anything on IMDB. --malber 13:10, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

It's called Titans in Tokyo I think [2]--zeldamaster3 13:48, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Canceled

It is an ended show check out tv.com. But Teen Titans might be brought back as a diferent show. Like they could change it to Titans go or something. It happend to Justice League.

• It has also been stated that good sales of Trouble in Toky could spawn future Titans projects... EO

There is a Teen Titans episode on Batman: The Brave and the Bold called "Sidekicks Assembled" even though they never mentioned the word "Teen Titans". I don't want to spoil it, but I can say that Robin, Speedy and Aqualad are in that episode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.135.241 (talk) 19:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I wish the original Titans came back on I'm not a fan of the teen titans go the characters are creepy and weird looked, use to be the kids and mine favorite but now not at all LeAnn Deniz (talk) 23:35, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Heroes section

Okay, so I'm curious. Where is Superboy? Isn't he like a huge character in Teen Titans comic books. What about the other heros too in the comic book series? Were there contract issued which prevented Superboy from being in the show?

I've re-added the list of characters and the image. Apostrophe (talk · contribs) has stated the intention of making the article easier for new readers, and there have been some very good edits of fanish material, but I think the paragraph here is redundant to the intro, or that some of this material can be added to the intro. I also think it's dangerous to state that Terra was a main Titan. While it is factually correct, especially considering the source material, in the show she was only there for a few episodes when compared to the bulk of the show. Listing her as a main Titan only invites the fan-kids and the shippers to expand and speculate.

The general guideline for TV shows is to have a list of characters ala IMDB so this is why I readded the list. I also think the FU image of the main cast is an appropriate graphical representation of the cast. Thoughts anyone? -- Malber (talk · contribs) 15:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I think this crap shouldn't be mentioned on other DC - Titan connected pages. Keep it separate from the articles on the REAL DC titles.

Just a heads up, I fixed a syntax error with the Honorary Titans table. It was left open ended, resulting in the info being displayed under the anteceding header, Major Villians. Now that it's fixed, it displayes properly.

Superboy was never a member of the Teen Titans. In any of the DC Universes, Superman was an adult and a member of the Justice League during the existance of the Teen Titans. Superboy was a long time member of the Legion of the Super Heros.Jny 01:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

DVD Releases

Can someone please enter a section, or at least a small paragraph, involving the current and upcoming DVD releases announced for the series? I'd do it myself, but I'm not quite sure where the information should be placed in the article. --Thores, 05:02, 05 April 2006 (UTC)

Maneuvers section

What seperates Teen Titans from other superhero shows is the fact that the Titans will combine their powers into spectacular maneuvers. Would it be a good idea to add a "Maneuvers" section to this page?

No. While this happened a few times, it's really too small of a detail to be of any use to anyone, nor to be encyclopedic. --InShaneee 20:44, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I concur, however a comment that, like the original comic, the show focused on the importance of a team working together to acheive a goal may be okay. Putting this in an non-original research context might be difficult. -- Malber (talk · contribs) 20:47, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

New Game

A new game was just recently released based on this series. I was wondering where the proper place for this information would be. 70.119.252.247 19:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Judas Contract

According to this website (a very trustworrthy site) http://www.titansgo.net/ it says that the judas contract movie isnt really a spinoff of the tv series but its own movie. it has different character designs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.85.221.185 (talk • contribs) 21:06, August 4, 2006

Thank you, Captain obvious and welcome to a week ago. BTW, if you have to preface a reference with a credibility claim...well, it doesn't look good. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 03:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Cancellation Part 2

A search at TitansGo.net for the words "cancel," "cancelled," and "cancellation" reveals no postings. Titan's Tower's small posting says, "...bad news from the production staff" that Cartoon Network passed on season six. This is not a reliable source. If there is a verifiable citation for a story that contradict's Wheaton's story, please post it with a reference that points to the story. Until then, I'm satisfied with his insider story as he's a frickin member of the cast! -- Malber (talk • contribs) 12:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Malber, with all due respect, I really do not think you know what you are talking about. Saying that TitansGo and TitansTower "function on rumors" is completely and blatantly false. Both sites keep an open dialogue and communicate directly with staff members on the show. TitansTower has done multiple interviews with Glen Murakami, David Slack, Rob Hoegee, and Amy Wolfram. I myself have even spoken with members of the production team, who have said without hesitation that Wil Wheaton's account was misguided and untrue. It is perfectly understandable that both sites would hesitate to post a front page update outing Wheaton and giving names of those regular (not guest) staff members who contradicted his story, and I do not think you realize that names are sometimes witheld because of sensitive topics. If you are truly desperate for validation, you may want to check each site's respective forum systems, because Wil's mistake was in fact discussed there.

I think you should relax, because his story is completely false, and by constantly reverting the article you are directly contributing to a perpetuation of misinformation. TheMagnificentHazo 02:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I've used Titan's Tower in this article with the quote from Murakami about Robin's identity. That was acceptable as a reliable source. But neither website has detailed information that refutes what Wheaton has said. Titan's Tower only paraphrases some guy on the production staff. This is not evidence that didn't come from higher up the Time Warner corporate chain. Wheaton's story is the only detailed one we can reliably verify, and I trust his word as he's been in the industry for over 20 years! Forums and weblongs are unacceptable per the reliable source guidelines. Provide some actual citations and your edits will likely stay. Wikipedia doesn't function on "I heard it from some guy." -- Malber (talk • contribs) 12:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Once again, I will point out to you that it is unlikely that either site would report, "Hey guys we're here to tell you that Wil Wheaton is wrong and here is the name of the specific person who said so, let's all go laugh at Wil for being wrong." And even if they did, posting such an update now would be rather belated, don't you think? The cancellation was very messy and very confusing for all parties involved, and it is very understandable that Wil would be confused. Additionally, saying that Wikipedia doesn't function on hearsay is rather ironic, considering that that is precisely what Wheaton's account is; the story about WB's new president not liking the pitch is a false rumor that was spread around the community for some reason. I am telling you as a direct source that the information in the article is incorrect, and I also find it somewhat insulting that you trivialize the sites' sources as "some guy[s]."

I would also once again remind you to search the sites' forum systems. And, again, I would ask that you reread the responses in the Cancellation section farther up on this page (particularly the one from user Raltorn); they provide further evidence that this secondhand account from someone not directly involved with the show is very unlikely to be accurate. Please understand I am not trying to be belligerent or argumentative, I am attempting to add clarification to this article and stop the rumors it has prompted. TheMagnificentHazo 17:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

And I'm trying to point you to the relevant policies regarding editing on Wikipedia. We function on verification from reliable secondary sources, not original research and not firsthand accounts. The cited article doesn't have to say that Wheaton is wrong. It should provide a story that is significantly different from Wheaton's account. As it stands, neither website does that. And again, forums and weblogs are not considered reliable sources per the guidelines. I would suggest finding somewhere this was reported in the press. A story on either Titan's Tower or TitansGo.net would be acceptable if they reported a detailed story about the cancellation, but saying you are the primary source isn't verifiable. The article doesn't claim Wheaton's story is the truth, just that it is a verifiable story.The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 17:28, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think you realize how utterly ridiculous that last sentence sounds. I also think you are taking this edit war far too seriously. Nonetheless, I strongly dislike the fact that inaccurate information is being essentially protected on this page (you may say that the article doesn't claim it is the truth, but it's perfectly clear that's what it comes across as), so I will do my best to clarify a source. As I cannot find any way to contact you on your member page, please send me an e-mail at wyse_cracker@yahoo.com. I will provide you with what "verification" I can. TheMagnificentHazo 00:18, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

It sounds silly until you read WP:V. Verifiability prevents someone from saying, "It's the truth because I say so." A cited source has to be verifiable by everyone; a private e-mail isn't an appropriate source. Something reported in the press (and yes, even a fan site would be like Titan's Tower) would be acceptable. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 02:36, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I have a link to a public page but I am unsure if it qualifies as a source and I do not want to link it here. That is why I want you to e-mail me, because you have not provided any contact information yourself. Please calm down, back off the Internet rage for a second, and just contact me. TheMagnificentHazo 19:23, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Any user who has registered their e-mail address can be contacted privately by going to their user page and clicking on "E-mail this user" under the toolbox. Or you could just go here: Special:Emailuser/Malber. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 19:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

E-mail sent. Awaiting your response. TheMagnificentHazo 18:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Ooh! I can't wait to find out the results! -Chris Griswold (☎☓) 19:33, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

LOL Chris. TMH: I got the e-mail. The material you sent is in forum posts which unfortunately don't meet the criteria of reliable sources. It would be nice if the staffers of those sites would actually write a journalistic story about the cancellation so we could cite it. We could (and probably should) re-word the article to state that Wheaton's views are not the official line from WB, but I fail to see the importance of the whether the decision came from WB Animation or Cartoon Network; they're both owned by the same parent company and the show is still cancelled. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 20:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I've added a sentence to emphasize that Wheaton's story is not official. I hope this compromise will be satisfactory. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 20:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

laffo@Chris. That works for me, Malber. I doubt we'll be seeing any journalistic story about the cancellation because, as I mentioned before, it's a fairly sensitive and complex issue that isn't typically addressed publically. But at least this way makes it clear that Wheaton's story is not necessarily correct (because it isn't :P). Glad we were able to resolve this. TheMagnificentHazo 21:31, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Glad we could work this out :-) -- Malber (talk • contribs) 17:19, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Heeeere we go: Rob Hoegee confirms cancellation by Cartoon Network. The link in my most recent update should suffice until TitansGo.net or another site releases a transcript of the interview.TheMagnificentHazo 03:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Continuity again

I'm inclined to delete this entire section. It's interesting speculation, but I don't think it will ever rise above original research especially now that the show has been cancelled. Thoughts, anyone? -- Malber (talk • contribs) 17:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with including some bits of information, such as are in that sectionl we just need to be careful not to make a conclusion.--Chris Griswold (☎☓) 18:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

The only problem is that it's flagged as lacking sources. I think it's correctly flagged. Unfortunately, I don't think we're ever going to be able to find any sources for the speculation in the section. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 20:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I think I may have flagged it. I will commit myself to finding some sources. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 20:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't recall Bruce (Timm) ever making any comment like the one cited in the section, so that can probably go. And the Kid Flash costume in "Flash and Substance" was just a standard Kid Flash costume-- it wasn't a reference to Teen Titans. Other parts of the section seem to be mainly composed of simple facts which can be easily verified by watching any of the animated series mentioned. I would request that, with the exception of those first two points, you hold off on any sort of deleting action for a while; I believe there is at least one major interview coming out in the near future which deals with some of the continuity questions. TheMagnificentHazo 22:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Cancellation Part 3

In response to DarthVader1219's edit summary, "Give me one good reason why a transcript of an IRC chat is less verifiable than a transcript of a podcast?," I can not only provide one, I can provide several.

• A transcript of an IRC chat posted in a web forum is specifically excluded from being cosidered a reliable source. If this chat interview was published on at the very least a fan site with a minimum of editorial oversight, it could be considered for inclusion. But to date it has not. It isn't verifiable because it could be easily faked. I'm not saying one way or the other if it is, but we have no way to know for sure. This is why it's not considered a reliable source.
• Wil Wheaton posts a link on his own site to the podcast, so it is something that is verifiable. It meets the exception for self-published sources because Wheaton qualifies as an insider. Moreover, the article doesn't state that what he said as fact, just that he said it. Which leads to my next point...
• This issue was considered resolved above (see Talk:Teen_Titans_(TV_series)#Cancellation_Part_2) with the compromise text that Wheaton's story has not been supported by offical sources. If the alternative story is ever published in a reliable source, please feel free to include it.

—Malber (talk • contribs) 15:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Indeed, no one is saying that Wheaton is correct; merely that we can verify that he said what he said. --InShaneee 15:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Well they put up a transcript. Yes, Malber, the earlier issue was resolved rather amicably, but the fact is that the incorrect information is still on the Wiki page. Hopefully this is good enough for you. 65.29.81.147 05:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

A transcript of an IRC chat is not ideal, but given the subject matter I would let it slide. —Malber (talk • contribs) 18:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

A new official interview with Glen Murakami herehas been posted on Titanstower. I think Murakami touches on how Teen Titans got cancelled and the new pitch from my first reading, but I just can't seem to find it now. --Takuyar 02:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Missing characters

This page doesn't talk about Red X, Trident, Puppet Master, and probably some other villains/characters. It looks like people from the earlier seasons are who's missing. - Peregrinefisher 19:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, found it at List of minor characters in the Teen Titans animated series. - Peregrinefisher 19:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Because the show followed the "Villain of the week" format, it's best to include minor characters in a separate list than in the main article. —Malber (talk • contribs) 15:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Tramm?

Isn't he an Honary Titan? He has a communicator and is frozen by the Brotherhood of Evil. trainra 11:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC)Trainra i agree like who is he red-x like tell me who he is ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vampirekisses100 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Repeated Vandalism

Looking at the history and the current state of the article, somebody has been repeatedly vandalizing the article by replacing it with either vulgar ranting or a fake "Blocked" page. Appreciate it if somebody could look into this. Requesting protection? -Mewarmo990 07:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Repeated, but not frequent. Not a big enough deal to warrant protection. --InShaneee 23:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Character tables

What the heck happened to these? They used to be nicely formatted with no borders. Now they have borders and…Japanese voice actors? And I've noticed that the Titans list has grown to add ancilliary Titans that were not main characters. I'm going to fix this if there are no major objections. —Malber (talk • contribs • game) 21:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I think it could stand to be cut down even further, IMHO. --InShaneee 21:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Seriously yes. Do we really need a Titans East table? Or Honorary Titans that were in one, maybe two episodes as a major character? This is why we have a separate list. —Malber (talk • contribs • game) 21:44, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

We do have the Minor table. My thoughts were always that any characters that aren't mentioned here, but have their own pages, could simply be linked to in a 'see also' section there. Also, I agree with both of your suggestions there. --InShaneee 03:53, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

The Titans East and Honorary Titans should go to the list article. The Villians should go back to the major arc villians list it used to be. Red X is just Red X and should be just on the list, even though he was somewhat recurring. This needs to go back to basics. I don't mean to belittle these characters, but many of them were seen in no more than three or so episodes. I think we should give it about a day or so and if there aren't any objections then do it. Most of the edits to this section seem to be fly-by-night anon and newbie edits. —Malber (talk • contribs • game) 04:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. This article needs to stay on the core of the show. --InShaneee 04:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Is this Noteworthy?

Should I be bothered saying that 'Starfire' and 'Blackfire' are both songs on Dragonforce's debut album, 'Valley of the Damned'?Centurion Ry 20:20, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

No, the album was released after the characters. trainra 05:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but I mean could those songs be a referance to the characters?Centurion Ry 17:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Jump City is referenced in BATMAN BRAVE AND THE BOLD animated show in the episode AQUAMAN'S OUTRAGEOUS ADVENTURE! as a city on the map and a road sign. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.152.157.71 (talk) 08:11, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

British "Stereotyping"

The criticisms of the Monty Python influenced "Revolution" fail to mention that Python was itself British, therefore making the claims from Brits it was "stereotypical" contradictive. Why was this ironic case of hypocrisy removed from the notes?

Dr. R.KZ. 15:40 28th May 2007

Because the Monty Python references are used for a stereotypical effect. The purpose of the reference to Monty Python was supposed to be tribute, but it came across as offensive.

Crablogger 12:57 11 June 2007

The link in note 9 uses a URL that votes "yes" for "was this review helpful?" A substitute should be found that does not force the reader to vote.

JimTS 10:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Sam Register's Quote

Not that I have a problem with it, but it sounds like it was spoken by an idiot. Maybe it's just because I'm tired, but it seemed to be pretty garbled. Does he just talk weird, or was the tone of voice important to the phrase? Because it almost looks like there's a mistake in it. Maybe not, just putting it out there... Newbliss (talk) 05:47, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

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Character/Titan Section.

I may be insane or something, but is there no character list for the titans? Only the minor characters? There should be a list of the Titans in their animated series role, as well as a list of who voices them. If I some how missed it, I apologize.

                     Maneating Lemon (talk) 00:40, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Robin's Identity

According to the article, Robin's real name in a comic was once give as Dick Grayson. What was the context of this revalation? Was it said by another character (who could have been mistaken)? By Robin himself (who could have been protecting his identity)? Or by a naration block that would not lie or be mistaken?

Emperor001 (talk) 14:35, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

well, 1: in "How Long is Forever", Koreand'r (aka Starfire) goes a few years into the future. in the future, Robin calls himself Nightwing, sounds familiar? 2: in some episode, robin's "alter-ego" or whatever you wanna call it, from an other dimension or universe or whatever, visits the Titans;his name is Nosyarg Kcid. what does that spell backwards? Dick Grayson. 3: in some episode, robin has a flashback, Robin performing his oath before Batman while receiving his suit. image from some batman comic long time ago, when robin was Dick Grayson.

also, im probably forgetting something... EDIT: see here http://teentitans.wikia.com/wiki/Robin#Identity as a conclusive answer, in Teen Titans Go! #47, it is revealed that Robin is Dick Grayson.

Divinity76 (talk) 14:38, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Robin Batman's son?

In the episode Apprentice pt. 2 Slade calls Robin his son and Robin says "no I already have a father," then he stares off into the distance and imagines bats flying in a church. Obviusly this is refering to Batman should I put it in the article... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.97.95 (talk) 02:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

He didn't mean biological father, he meant father figure. 67.172.25.175 (talk) 02:48, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Also, Dick Grayson changes his name to Richard Wayne.

Shadzad (talk) 13:11, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

They are not biological father and son Nomsese (talk) 21:39, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Age says 16-17 for all characters

Raven turned 16 at the end of the... one season. so she was 15 before that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.172.25.175 (talk) 02:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Slade's Voice

Ron Pearlman? NO WAY. That is definetly KELSEY GRAMMER voicing Slade!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.153.76 (talk • contribs) 21:14, January 17, 2010

They both have a similar tone, but Perlman was definitely the voice. Thanks.— TAnthony^Talk 22:59, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Lets hope that Slade does appear on Batman: The Brave and the Bold. But I doubt that he would be voiced by Ron Perlman since they already chose him to voice Dr Double X. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.135.241 (talk) 19:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Justice League Crisis on Two Earths

How come they never revealed Slade's face in this cartoon?? But when I watched Crisis on Two Earths his face is revealed?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.135.241 (talk) 19:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Cause they were made by different people. -Golem866 (talk) 00:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Teen Titans :)

O.M.G could somebody tell me why they stop doing teen titans!!! i loved that show it was awesome!can somebody please talk to the producer to start doing teen titans the original again that show was awesome it sucks how they took it away! >:( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.201.204.60 (talk) 01:09, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I know right, even I loved that show Nomsese (talk) 21:41, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Terra

Terra isn't a major character. She shouldn't be on the list... No. No. No. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.68.3 (talk) 02:31, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

You wished she wasn't, this is not a fan forum henny, so you're claims and OPINIONS are invalid and OFFTOPIC. Facts are facts Goodbye. Smarty9108 (talk) 15:29, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Speculation cruft

In these edits [3][4] 173.251.126.2, then EvergreenFir, removed content that was speculative in nature. I was going to remove it myself after BU Rob13 restored it, but I had an edit conflict with Evergreen. The bulk of the content is unsourced and contains original research. Asking someone involved in the series what the potential story line of an unlikely next season would be constitutes WP:OR and is entirely speculative. They might have had some ideas of what the next season could have been, but that doesn't make it any more likely or tangible than any other sort of speculation. And no negative comment is intended for BU Rob13. The reversion was sound—the IP didn't explain the removal. I would have done the same thing. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:18, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

I agree that it should be removed; I was just reverting based on the unexplained removal of sourced content. The content is not encyclopedic.

As a side note, I think it's a misapplication of WP:OR to state that content published in some way by someone involved with the series in response to a question asked by an editor is original research. WP:OR applies only to things for which no reliable published sources exist. The person being involved with the series makes the source reliable, and simply putting it out on the internet is publishing it. End of WP:OR, at least in my opinion. ~ Rob^Talk 20:42, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, I'll look into this for my own edification, but I believe what makes it OR is when a user ventures out on their own to collect information from these people, they're basically manufacturing a primary source and creating an interview. No reliable published source exists beyond that effort. But I dunno. I could be wrong. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:13, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

It's my understanding of OR that it applies more to a situation where an editor is either pushing their opinions that they create by synthesizing things from multiple sources to form a conclusion or situations where editors are claiming to possess knowledge that simply isn't published anywhere (i.e. "I know the subject!" or "I ran a regression myself!" etc). ~ Rob^Talk 21:24, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

It's not RS at the very least. And the first part was unsourced (which could be OR I guess). Either way, it seems like we agree it should have been removed, yes? And just to be clear, Rob, I totally understood why you reverted. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 21:51, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I think we all agree on the reversion. I just saw the opportunity to have a pedantic conversation about policy, and that's my fetish. ~ Rob^Talk 22:51, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

How kinky and academic. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 22:53, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Heh, to you both. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:08, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Revival announced?

I heard that since Teen Titans Go! to the Movies was a success, they were thinking of reviving the 2003 series for one last season. I hope Adult Swim picks up season 6 of Teen Titans (2003). --2601:2C0:C280:21A0:5401:2BD7:4984:1671 (talk) 04:44, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

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