Talk:Jackfruit

Jack fruit

IT'S FREAKIN' HUEG!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSOB (talk • contribs) 13:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Jackfruit in cebuano

Actually the Cebuano word for jackfruit is nangka and not langka which is the same with malaysian and indonesian counterparts.

Copyright Violation?

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Source: http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/jackfruit.html

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Plate 6: JACKFRUIT,

Are © notices allowed in Wiki?
Looks like self-promotion.
Large lump of text lifted from elsewhere - refs to Figs and Plates not included in Wiki version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RHaworth (talk • contribs) 20:16, January 15 2005 (UTC)

This appears to be resolved (already removed) Singkong2005 09:11, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Inaccurate Claim

"the fruit is the largest edible fruit in commerce"

This fruit is smaller than many of the fruits in the Cucurbitaceae family, especially the Melon.

Will remove this statement if not qualified. DavidHallett 23:14, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

How is it smaller than Melons!! I've actually seen Jackfruits as large as 3.5 feet in height. I'm yet to see a Melon that large. Thanks. --Ragib 02:57, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Another thing to note is this is not a single fruit, but a compound fruit. a lot of fruits join together to give the appearance of a big fruit. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by P-tvm (talk • contribs) 03:57, October 28 2006 (UTC)

Technically speaking, DavidHallett is right. The Cucurbitaceae family include pumpkins, which it seems, are actually fruit. And there are 900 pound pumpkins out there. As a result I'm going to trim this statement.

ManicParroT 04:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I have tried to bring some objectivity to the article by describing the importance of this fruit to the people and culture of South India. The opinion of a non-native of India (Babur) on the fruit, comparing it to sheep's intestines and such is abhorrant. In spite of my repeated attempts to add this context, the author's kept reverting to the quote. Such lack of perspective and stubbornness only serves to reduce the overall credibility of Wikipedia. Just because Bangladesh adopted this to be its national fruit does not by any means diminish its origin (South Western India) and its glorious place in the South Indian culture. To state that the "very first documented description of the fruit" is in a text written by a foreigner to India is inaccurate - [User: Sentryman101 - Born in India, living in the US since 1995] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentryman101 (talk • contribs) 00:05, March 2 2007 (UTC)

You just evaded you block for blanking, by creating a new account!! Your unexplained blanking of referenced material constitutes vandalism, and your IP have been blocked for 24 hours for THAT reason, not for any love or hatred of Jackfruits. Finding Babur abhorrent is your POV, please keep POVs off Wiki. If you have further information to add, you are always welcome, but unexplained blanking of information would always constitute vandalism, and please don't do that. Referenced material is always welcome. Thank you. --Ragib 00:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Sir, I understand, now, that blanking is not allowed. I did not create a new account - if you want, please go and check the date and time I created the account (if you can). I tried to add some references to papers that documented evidence that jack fruit was grown in India as early as 6th century B.C. In my opinion, this does not constitute blanking. Even your very article states that the fruit was indegenous to India. You summarily dismissed the changes and reverted back to your original description. No problem - it is your decision to do so.

In addtion, my comment said the comparison was abhorrant - not Babur himself. You said that POV's should be off Wiki - isnt the quote from Baburnama a POINT OF VIEW (Babur's point of view)? Give it some thought and you will find the fallacy in your own argument. At any rate, I am done trying to make this article more objective. Please have it your way (i.e your POV). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentryman101 (talk • contribs) 00:29, March 2 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the above user [Sentryman101]. If quoting points of view is against the policy of Wikipedia, Babur's point of view should be removed. Just stick with the facts and remove Babur's quote. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.74.13 (talk • contribs) 01:05, March 2 2007 (UTC)

It's even worse to use anonymous socks. (The IPs resolve to same area!!).

Anyway, back to the original issue, again there is no problem in writing about whatever historical material you can provide from a reliable source. As for the NPOV point, I was referring to YOU as an editor, for finding a quotation "abhorrent". Thanks. --Ragib 01:53, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Personal attacks and incorrect conclusions aside, Ragib! have you ever bothered to experience how wonderful a Jack Fruit is? It is delicious in both the raw and ripe forms. If you did, you will realize the injustice caused by the historical quote from Babur. BTW, I am not the same as Sentryman101. This piqued my interest enough to create a profile. --Cnu123 (talk · contribs) 13:40, March 2 2007 (UTC)

When new and newer accounts crop up suddenly, and their first edits are here, it does look quite interesting.

Jackfruit is one of my personal favorites. So, I know how delicious it is. However, I don't see any problem with Babur's quote, as it gives a different angle. Durian is another such fruit which tastes and smells horrible to outsiders, but people from Singapore simply love that fruit. Thanks. --Ragib 13:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Ragib,Good to know that Jack fruit is your personal favorite. It is also good to know that you do not have any "problem" with Babur's quote about jack fruit. I have no problem with the quote either - I just have a problem with using it in the Wiki page on jack fruit. The reasons are as follows. I went to the wiki page on neutral point of view and it clearly stated the following criteria that qualify a point of view to be "neutral" and pre-requisites for including a reference in a page.

1. The reference requires an identifiable and objectively quantifiable population or, better still, 2. a name (with the clear implication that the named individual should be a recognised authority).

Including the quote from Babur clearly violates rule no. 2 - Babur is NOT A RECOGNIZED AUTHORITY ON JACK FRUIT.

Rule no.1 is not verifiable unless you have proof that there is a study that indicates that the quote represents popular opinion.

In summary, I sincerely appeal for the removal of the quote from the page. If not, I promise to dispute the validity of the presence of the quote on the page because I believe that it is in gross volation of the NPOV policy of Wikipedia.

Thanks - Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 (talk • contribs) 15:07, March 2 2007 (UTC)

1. Please sign your comments. Stick to a single account
2. Your interpretation of #2 is wrong. That was referring to the source of the reference, not the person. Instead of spending bytes upon bytes over this, why don't you add information on Jackfruit (backed by reliable sources? Thanks. --Ragib 15:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Stop attacking me - I have a single account. Regarding my interpretation of #2, it is your opinion that I misinterpreted the rule. We will let a committee decide who's interpretation is inaccurate. Baburnama is an autobiography - quoting from that source automatically implies quoting the person who wrote it and in this case, he is not an authority on the subject. QED. cheers - Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 (talk • contribs) 15:26, March 2 2007 (UTC)

Is the quote NOT from Baburnama? #2 applies on the veracity of the source of the cited information, and NOT on the information itself. I'm not attacking you, merely requesting you to log in and sign. Already a lot of different IP addresses are masquerading as Sentryman101 (talk · contribs), so it is difficult to see whether all are the same person or not. Thanks. --Ragib 15:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, stop adding "explanations" like this. Let the readers decide on the comment, not YOU. --Ragib 15:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, you say that I should let the readers decide. Why dont YOU LET THE READERS decide and leave the facts alone. Fact - Babur was a Moghul emperor. Fact - Baburnama is his autobiography. Fact - He was NOT an authority on jack fruit. Why are YOU removing facts from a Wikiipedia page? Just because you can????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentryman101 (talk • contribs) 15:35, March 2 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, the article is doing exactly this. It is presenting a fact from a historic book, that Babur wrote about this as such. A reference backs the source of the quote.

Secondly, the article doesn't say Babur's writing was/is THE TRUTH. By adding your personal "explanation", you add your POV there.

Thirdly, I've restored some of your text, and please provide a source for that. Thanks. --Ragib 15:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it is presenting an opinion - not a fact. Babur thought that the inside of the jack fruit resembled sheep's intestines. I am not disputing that the quote appears/not in the book. I am saying that the quote does not belong here because it represents the opinion of one person - Babur and he is most definitely not a RECOGNIZED authority on the subject. Because of this, if you choose to quote from his book, you need to state clearly who he was and how his opinon is relevant to the subject on hand - jack fruit. I DID NOT add my personal POV at all. I added three FACTS about Babur and YOU REMOVED THEM.

Regarding the restoration, I am not looking for anybody to throw me a bone in return for distorting facts and presenting biased opinions on a site like Wiki. I haven't figured out how the appeal process works but rest assured the appeal is going to come - cheers, Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentryman101 (talk • contribs) 15:47, March 2 2007 (UTC)

Please spend some more time in Wikipedia to learn more about the policies. The diff I quoted above is your personal opinion, which is not allowed in articles. The article does not endorse Babur's description of the fruit. It merely mentions that Baburnama, a historic book, has this para on the fruit. Whether that text praises or disparages the fruit is irrelevant. Thank you. --Ragib 15:50, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I just did and am questioning the relevance of quoting from an autobiography of a person who is not even remotely proficient in the topic, let alone a RECOGNIZED authority. Any attempts to clarify this persons's experitse on the topic were summarily dismissed by the administrator - yourself and hence the urge to appeal for objectivity - cheers Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 (talk • contribs) 16:09, March 2 2007 (UTC)

If you provide "clarification", that's your POV, and personal comment. Thanks. --Ragib 16:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Which portion of this is my personal opinion, pray enlighten me. The Baurnama is the autobiography of the Moghul Emperor Babur, who was not a native of India. Neither was he an authority on Jack Fruit. Hence, the above quote is merely an opinion of an individual. If any portion was my opinion, then you should have removed only that portion. Even better, provide evidence that it is my opinion and I would have removed it myself. Why did you remove the whole thing? Is that the same as "blanking"? At any rate, I dont believe the quote belongs in the page. You do. I am appealing - cheers, Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 (talk • contribs) 16:16, March 2 2007 (UTC)

It does seem a very bad waste of time to repeat this again and again. Everything except the first clause in your highlighted sentence is your personal opinion and commentary on the quote. Just stick to facts, that's enough. I am not going to repeat this again. As I said, you are free to add information to the article (referenced from reliable sources), but removal of a referenced piece of quotation, just because "YOU" don't like it, is not a justification. Thank you. --Ragib 16:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

So is the inclusion of a quote just because "YOU" don't see any "problem" with it. Just think about it. A reader who has never seen a jack fruit in his/her life would be completely biased by this comparison. It would be much better to provide a picture of an open jack fruit (as some other person commented in on the discussion board) and let them decide what it looks like. It is indeed a very bad waste of time for us to argue about this (we agree!). Let's agree to disagree and let a third party decide what's best. I will follow up with the appeal - cheers Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 (talk • contribs) 16:43, March 2 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Sentryman on the negative perception conveyed by the quote. I am not from India and have never heard of Jackfruit before... the visual of sheep intestines is not a good start... we should only include opinions that reflect a majority... if not, then we fall into stereotyping... think about it Ragib, what would happen if your thinking would be applied to countries or races? I hereby request that you remove the quote or yourself from this conversation and let calmer spirits take over. (Prince of Carthage) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondher (talk • contribs) 14:47, March 5 2007 (UTC)

Why do we keep always getting newbie accounts with very very small number of edits coming to the aid of Sentryman? --Ragib 19:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Instead of focusing on how much each of them contributed, who they are etc, it might be worthwhile for you to focus on what they are saying (what versus the who). They are asking you to REMOVE THE QUOTE because it is out of place - cheers Sentryman101 Sentryman101 (talk · contribs) 01:57, March 6 2007 (UTC)

Third opinion

Given that Babur is a very notable figure, and apparently had such a strong opinion on the matter, it's certainly reasonable to include his comments. They're already attributed to him, the additional commentary ("not an expert on jack fruits") and the like is unnecessary. It's very clear from the prose that the statement is Babur's opinion, not a statement of fact, and the source is perfectly reliable. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. Very interesting. Lets follow a similar hypothetical example and see if it makes sense: George Bush is a very notable figure. He has some strong opinions about the Theory of Relativity. Does it serve wikipedia well to include those opinions in the wikipedia page on the Theory of Relativity? Sentryman101 21:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Variations

There are hundreds or thousands of variety available. They are broadly classified into two as varikka and koozha. people prefer varikka chakka as it is easy to chew the fruit on full ripening. on the other hand koozha chakka loses its strength to retain shape and acts like fluid.

the claim about the bad smell is wrong. On full ripening, most of the variety smells nice, attracting, squirrels, crows and people from around one KM radius. —Preceding unsigned comment added by P-tvm (talk • contribs) 04:20, October 28 2006 (UTC)

While traveling in Jamacia I mentioned to some of the locals that I was disappointed there were no native vegetables or fruits on our menu. I was immediatley introduced to the jackfruit. The locals warned me that it smells very strongly and is unpleasant. I found it to smell strongly of anus.. to put it technically. However, I did not let it stop me from enjoying a truly wonderful fruit. If anything I think that the smell makes it more intresting and should be a terrific selling point. Fantisee (talk) 18:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just added information about the three varieties of jackfruit acknowledged in Brazil. I would like to see some detailed information about whether these varieties are native or not, what are the recognized Asian varieties, their origin (wild varieties or cultivars?) and so onCerme (talk) 15:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Translations

Are all of those translations at the beginging really needed? I find them to be very cluttersome.--SeizureDog 21:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I moved them to a separate section, leaving only the scientific name in the intro. Of course, I think that having the list of names in different languages is fine, it just doesn't belong to the intro. A separate section should work. Thanks. --Ragib 21:31, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Comment, photo

This article sucks; good luck improving it. Among the many things it needs is a photo of a dissected jackfruit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.39.182.234 (talk • contribs) 01:22, July 7 2006 (UTC)

Preety much all articles "suck" at some point. But don't worry, we all can edit them and make it better. ;) Loukinho (talk) 11:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Flavor and appearance

What is up with the flavor and appearance section? If those fruits are different and aren't jackfruits, then nuke the talk about them. I think the start of that section up until the big rant in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS should just be eliminated outright. It claims the jackfruit is sweet and delicious, then there's a quote later calling it disgusting. I was under the impression it was an acquired taste.

At any rate, I'm eliminating it. Anyone who wants to clean it up, feel free to revert.

I'm highly curious about different fruits and after a bit of research am most looking foward to the Jackfruit. I've heard that it "tastes like Juicy Fruit Gum, but that that description doesn't give it justice." Can I get a few other opinions on this fruit? - DoaJ

-Markusbradley 03:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Most of this section was actually a copyvio, stolen from the Purdue New Crops website. I've removed it now. - MPF 18:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Flavour similar to Pineapple? Are you kidding me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.175.136.245 (talk) 03:50, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree, it's not like Pineapple at all. It's taste and tissue are actually similar to a citrus fruit, like a grapefruit without bitterness. - Victor

Cleanup

Did a lot of cleanup... let me know if I deleted any important information. --SameerKhan 23:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Growing in sacks

In Indonesia, it is not uncommon to see Jackfruit growing inside sacks on the tree. I don't know if this is to protect from insects, or to prevent disaster if the fruit should fall from the tree. Is this common elsewhere in the world, and does anyone know why? I'd mention it in the main article if I knew more. --Bwmodular 08:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

No, There is not such a practise at least in Kerala, India. The fruit is also that not easy to fall down from the trunk. Though there is an old saying that translates into 'fallen jackfruit killed a hare', which is something like 'once in a blue moon day'. there are no disaster for that.

about insects. Though I have lived over 25 years in the land, I am yet to see any insect attack on the fruit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by P-tvm (talk • contribs) 03:54, October 28 2006 (UTC)

Here in the Caribbean, birds commonly eat Jackfruit once ripe. With regards to seeing Jackfruit in sacks, perhaps it was to stop birds from eating them? I've not seen them in sacks around here, but then Jackfruit are an exotic here (i.e. not common in the Bocas del Toro, Panama, region where I live) Jonathan E. (talk) 20:10, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Retarded?

Im not a fruitologist but is there actually such a thing as the retarded fruit family? 75.206.194.222 20:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Babar and jackfruit

Anyone helping to maintain this page ever actually read the quote by Babar that the jackfruit tastes like sheep intestines? That seems like an amazingly off comment, when he writes so pleasantly about the other fruits in Fergana and Samarkand. It just seems a bit off to me. So I just want to know how many other users here have actually read that quote in some place other than Wikipedia (or something that references wikipedia). At any rate.. it will be on my to-do list to look up. I'll let you know what I find. WDavis1911 05:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

WDavis, were you able to find any information on the quote from Babarnama? I would not be surprised though. Babur was not a native of India. Therefore his opinion would be subject to some biases. If you did find something, please post it - thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.49.14 (talk) 19:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for taking so long to reply. No I didn't find the quote. I found the partial text online (hence my comments about Babar's opinions about other fruits) but couldn't find that quote specifically. It was only a partial text (perhaps on Google Books or Amazon) so it's likely I missed the quote. I'll be going on another wiki-rampage in about 3 weeks, so I'll try to remember to add it to my activities. Thanks for the reminder. WDavis1911 (talk) 06:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Replying to your original comment above, it is quite possible that Babar hated Jackfruit. Like Durian, those who like Jackfruit just love it, while those who don't hate it completely. So, I'm not surprised that Babar hated the fruit while praising mango and other milder fruits. --Ragib (talk) 08:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Replying to WDavis1911. It is heartening to see that the quote from Babur has been removed, at least until the source is verified. The article reads much better without references to sheep, intestines, and other such gross analogies. I am very curious to know what you find out about the quote. I am a native of India and have enjoyed jack fruit since childhood - I now live in the US. Babur's comment would do nothing to either change my opinion or add any value to my knowledge of the fruit (much the same with his comments about mango). Nevertheless, it would definitely help me to change/modify my opinion about the guy - cheers, Sentryman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.49.241 (talk) 15:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

William Jack

The fruit is named after William Jack (1795-1822), a botanist who worked for the East India Company in Bengal, Sumatra and Malaysia ref Ralph R. Stewart (1984) How Did They Die? Taxon 33(1):48-52./ref.

Looks dubious. Does anyone have JSTOR access to verify exactly what this source says? This looks like a folk etmyology, as the thing was called jaca / chakka centuries before William Jack came along. The OED traces the English name via the Portuguese jaca (mentioned in Colóquios dos simples e drogas da India by Garcia de Orta, 1563). Gordonofcartoon (talk) 16:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I added it and did see the paper and can probably find the paper on my hard disk. But maybe you can quote the OED which I would give priority and mention that some authors attribute it to William Jack. Shyamal (talk) 05:47, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Done. I managed to do a suitable Google search [1] that confirms the text inside the document. I know we can't just bin sources, but it really looks like a data point to be avoided. It's the only reliable independent source I can find that says this; it's etymologically unlikely; and I kind of wonder if Ralph R Stewart was either having a little academic joke (or his valves were sticking) because he was 94 when he wrote How did they die?. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 01:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I hadn't researched the author and see that he worked in an area known to take lives ! Shyamal (talk) 03:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

PS. The paper above is definitely in error. The name is recorded in Rheede's Hortus Malabaricus. Shyamal (talk) 02:14, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Taste

I have just tried it for the first time here in Saigon - I would say it tastes a lot like banana, not pineapple as much. Can we get a reliable source please? 113.22.251.64 (talk) 16:47, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. The taste of jackfruit is usually "soft" on the mouth, as it is not acid like pineapple. The problem is - how do you get a reliable source for what is a matter of personal taste? Cerme (talk) 14:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

There are some ideas here http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/112599791/abstract http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=14502780 and a paper in this book http://books.google.com/books?id=1gRq-rY4pegC&lpg=PA86&ots=whCD_sNRVZ&dq=Jackfruit%20flavour&lr=&pg=PA89 mentions some flavour studies ! Shyamal (talk) 16:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Have attempted to read the above-cited links, I am just going to conclude that describing flavors and smells is at best a highly imprecise art. I personally think that jackfruit tasted like a mix of pears and bananas, but since taste is a very subjective sense, it seems unlikely that we will be able to agree on a description that accurately describes everyones experiences. Prophet121 10:07, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I live in the Caribbean. The jackfruit I have here taste more like a cantaloupe. Certainly would not have described it as like pineapple or banana. Two other people here agree it is like a melon, specifically cantaloupe only sweeter. I am referring to a ripe Jackfruit. Perhaps different Jackfruit varieties have different flavours, since we seem to have differing experiences of the flavour. Jonathan E. (talk) 20:11, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know enough details to know if there are distinct varieties of jackfruit, but even if there are not, the concept of terrior would apply, as in wine or anything else that is grown and consumed. Viva la difference! Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 18:44, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

a reminder that when we describe a fruit as tasting like a more familiar fruit, we are showing cultural bias. to someone who first tasted jackfruit, banana and pineapple would taste a bit like jackfruit. we dont have a valid set of culinary terms for the various flavor elements of fruits. to some, this fruit is likely central to their entire fruit consumption, so it becomes the fruit to compare others to. sticky problem in being NPOV. words like highly aromatic doesnt work either. 174.195.88.232 (talk) 17:24, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Texture

There's mention of a "distinctive meat-like texture" in the article but I've just had some canned jack fruit and it has a silky smoothness which is reminiscent of lychees. Meat is not what springs to mind. 78.147.61.114 (talk) 21:22, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Could Jacfruit be used as Ethenol source?

Article did not mention that theres some research useing Jackfruit to produce Ethenol alternative fuel!Since there an overabundance of JackFruit in tropic lands. This may add to the economies of theses nations.Grazzi!Thanks!TRUEVICTOR (talk) 16:57, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Did you mean Ethanol ? I think maybe Jackfruit sap/blood may be used for producing some renewable polymer, because I picked a bit of its wood many years ago and the sap got solid and with plastic appearance. Now I got curious about the possibility of extracting oil from jackfruit nuts in order for produce Biodiesel Laranjatomate (talk) 16:20, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

"Social impact"

An IP editor has persistently changed the heading "in culture" to other phrases, the most recent being "social impact". I'm at a bit of a loss to understand how a fruit can have a "social impact", and prefer the former phrasing, but rather than be drawn into an edit war, thought it best to raise the issue here. Thoughts? JohnInDC (talk) 01:24, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I changed it to "Social manifestations". "Impact" suggests an effect occasioned by the fruit - if for example, its cultivation permitted a great expansion of population, or certain curative properties removed a longstanding disease from a society that had been held back by it. This section instead describes a belief system that includes the fruit. The actor is the culture, not the fruit. The fruit merely exists. Anyhow I struggled to figure out a better word than "manifestations" and failed, but am substituting it because - Mark Twain notwithstanding - almost the right word is better than a completely wrong one. Any third party editor who disagrees is welcome to revert me (or change the caption back to its original and in my view best form). JohnInDC (talk) 11:02, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

How about "cultural significance"? Gordonofcartoon (talk) 15:54, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure! Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 17:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Dishes and Preparation

I find it odd that only the young jackfruit is shown to be used as a food source while giving little to no mention to the various recipes that use ripe jackfruit. I shall be adding a section to the article detailing the various uses of ripe jackfruit.

If you find any errors, please feel free to edit them as necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackfruitlove (talk • contribs) 18:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Biology

Could someone with the requisite knowledge add some biology to this article. At the very least, it would be good to have some informed comment on the emergence of the fruit stalks directly from the trunk of the tree. Notreallydavid (talk) 06:02, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Size discrepancy

The opening paragraph states Jackfruit get as large as 36 inches long and 20 inches in diameter. Later under the heading "Jackfruit" the following is stated "Huge jackfruits up to four feet in length with matching girth are sometimes seen in Kerala". This is implying a length of 48 inches, and a girth (which I assume is the circumference) of 48 inches (which is a diameter of approximately 15.3 inches).Jonathan E. (talk) 20:21, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Too many images?

I wonder if there are too many images in this article? Perhaps a number of them can be situated in a gallery. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:50, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Don't remove tamilnadu from this

Tamilnadu also exporting jack fruits for many countriez so dont remove it Vijayganesh.s1996 (talk) 06:11, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Information about the jackfruit.

There's an article about the jackfruit featured on the Business Insider website: http://www.businessinsider.com/this-miracle-fruit-tastes-like-pulled-pork-2015-8 The article features a video of (apparently) BI staff taste-testing the raw and barbecued fruit, as well as the different ways to utilize the plant and cultural differences of some locations within it's range:

• The video associated with the BI article states that the record jackfruit weighed 150 pounds.

• Although the meaty texture is mentioned in the WP article and describes a meaty flavor of unripe fruit, the BI article, especially the attached video, speaks of when cooked, the fruit tastes like pulled-pork.

• The BI article speaks of the various other uses of the tree, including as a source for natural latex glue, the leaves that are used for animal feed, dye from the bark, and lumber (WP already mentions those last two). BI says that a jackfruit tree is easy to grow, easier and cheaper than crops like wheat and corn. There are two harvests per year.

• The article speaks of some cultural differences in growing and using the fruit. In India, there is a stigma as it's considered a food of the poor. Therefore, many Indians do not eat it; up to 75% of the fruits are allowed to rot. There's no mechanization for Indian farmers to use at this time to harvest the fruit and exploit the other products of the tree. In comparison, other countries in South and Southest Asia are embracing the jackfruit to the extent of commercially exploiting the tree.

"Countries like Vietnam, Philippines, and Malaysia are minting money from jackfruit. Sri Lanka proudly calls it [the] 'tree of rice,'" Padre said. "But ironically, in [the] motherland of jackfruit, we still haven’t understood jackfruit's importance." (Padre edits the Indian magazine Adike Patrike.)

• BI adds that Mr Padre estimates the possible dollar value that the jackfruit tree could bring to Indian farmers if they would embrace its argriculture.

• This is the online 2014 Guardian article that the BI article references: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/apr/23/jackfruit-miracle-crop-climate-change-food-security It is your reference #24.

Although reference #8 mentions breadfruit, another of the mulberry family, the WP article doesn't mention or link to this cousin of the jackfruit, likewise a staple food for many. However, the breadfruit article mentions jackfruit. (Reference #8 also has recipes for jackfruit.)

Since I have not mastered working with references as yet, will the author who added it in please fix reference #32?

Lots to "chew on"! Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 17:45, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2015

I have added ", and fish sauce barrels." to the page, and someone removed it. Please, change "In Vietnam, jackfruit wood is prized for the making of Buddhist statuaries in temples.[29]" into "In Vietnam, jackfruit wood is prized for the making of Buddhist statuaries in temples[29], and fish sauce barrels."

I have been a carpenter in Vietnam, and I know how Jackfruit wood is used in Vietnam. It is famous for making fish sauce barrels. It is the fact that even babies in the villages that make fish sauce know very well. Somebody who does not know nothing about fish sauce barrels dares to remove my contribute to the page. If I was wrong, can this person provide the evident showing that he is right?

If you want me to provide evident, please, follow some steps:

Enter keyword for search in Google "thùng chượp làm nước mắm pictures" which means in Vietnamese that "fish sauce barrels" and you can find many of pictures. They all are barrels made of Jackfruit wood.

One of the articles found when you click a picture is: https://dacsanvungmienarc2.wordpress.com/category/dac-san-nuoc-mam/ You may find the sentence of "Thùng lều được làm từ gỗ bằng lăng hoặc gỗ mít" that means the barrels were made of wood from bằng lăng trees or from Jackfruit trees."

You may find a page of wikipedia: https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C6%B0%E1%BB%9Bc_m%E1%BA%AFm_Phan_Thi%E1%BA%BFt I quote "phải dùng loại gỗ mềm như bằng lăng, mít, bờ lời để làm thùng" that means "barrels are made of wood from bằng lăng, mít, bờ lời" in which "mít" is the name of Jackfruit tree.

A note to the ones who read my request: Whoever feels he is super enough to overrule my contribution to the page, please, look at himself first and answer the question, "Do I do that for the benefit of Wikipedia, or I do that to make myself feel better?" Trần Anh Mỹ (talk) 01:38, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Done - thank you for your edit suggestion. Your edit from last year was removed because you did not provide a reliable source to support it. Wikipedia sincerely appreciates all constructive contributions to articles, but we require that information has sources, or it may be removed. It is not removed because any editor is better than you, but only because we have to follow the policies.

I'm not able to use the sources which you provided because we cannot rely on your personal experience, the Vietnamese source is a Wordpress blog, and the third is to a Wikipedia site, and none of these sources satisfy our verifiability policy. However, I did find a source which verifies the claim, and I have added it to the article. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:51, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

This page is a mess

As an editor, I am going to do massive deletion in one week (Oct 1). Of all unsupported statements, and all biased ones (read the Tamil/India section for extreme bias) that has not been returned to encyclopedic standards. It's a big job, so I'm letting it go longer than I normally do, but I came here to find out about the jack fruit after finding it on the Hmart site and considering purchasing it, and this page is fairly useless. I know what type of fruit it is. Yay. Thespian (talk) 16:43, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

"Baby Jackfruit and Jackfruit's Nutritious Seeds"

I'm seeing online that "Baby Jackfruit" isn't actually a type of jackfruit at all, but a type of gourd called "gac". Small change, but I think the image of "baby jackfruit" as an example of prepared jackfruit needs to be removed.

Also, I don't have the time right now to find a link, but the "Nutrition" section is missing a ton of information regarding the jackfruit's seeds, which are actually the most nutrient-dense part. They're pretty spiffy things too - you can boil them and they taste and feel like tiny baked potatoes. Could someone pump up the Nutrition section by adding information about jackfruit seeds?

Sorry if I did this all screwy. First time. 199.96.16.11 (talk) 15:28, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

We have an article on gac which is certainly not a jackfruit, not even in the same family. Jackfruit seeds are of nutritional interest, but we need a WP:RS source to state they are commonly consumed and provide various nutrients. This PMID 21789865 indicates the seeds are good sources of protein, starch and dietary fiber, but little other discussion about micronutrients is available. Another one PMID 24054264 here is not very informative. --Zefr (talk) 15:44, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Pulled jackfruit

i didn't know this was even a thing until I had some today. We don't seem to have anything in the article about its use in western countries. Doug Weller talk 20:55, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Claims of being a "miraculous health cure".

This article states that Jackfruit has many health benefits, including curing cancer, yet no sources or studies are cited to back up these claims. Thejanitor88 (talk) 18:24, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Thejanitor88 I see no reference to "curing cancer", and indeed the word "cancer" is not even in the article. Could you be more specific about what you're talking about? Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 18:27, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

It was this spam edit which I reverted 7 minutes after it was added, and I warned the user about inserting spam into the encyclopedia. --Zefr (talk) 18:30, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Citation needed

I found three parts need citation. First, under heading Botanical description, there is a part called shape, trunk and leaves. Second, under heading As food, Africa part needed reference for it. Third, invasive species heading need citation for all information in that paragraph. I want to know more about jack fruit wood is prized for the making of Buddhist statutes in temples but the link no longer available. Thaonguyen127 (talk) 20:06, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Request to add changes

The name of this fruit is known as a Kaathal in Dhaka in Bangladesh & Khatol in sylhet in bangladesh its the national fruit of bangladesh (User:Doug_Weller) i could only find this source https://www.favcounter.com/fruits-name-in-bengali-fruits-list-bangla/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bangladeshmusicians (talk • contribs) 22:18, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

That's not a usable reference, and various common names for jackfuit across many countries of southern Asia are not needed for the English encyclopedia. If you can find a Bangladesh government source showing it is the national fruit, that would be noteworthy. Under Cultural significance, this source states it is the national fruit, but that source isn't official. Bangladesh.com may be a better source. --Zefr (talk) 23:50, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

"Official" fruit

This revert was justified because the source is 4 years old and the notice is only that an Indian state recognized the jackfruit. There is no case for this content or source having WP:WEIGHT. Zefr (talk) 18:09, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. _signed, Willondon (talk) 16:31, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@Zefr

Dear Zefr..

List of Kerala state symbols.

mention the official fruit catagory. Nadhukerala (talk) 12:01, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't think anybody has challenged the fact that it is the official fruit of Kerala. What has been questioned is whether or not it is important enough to appear in the lead. The consensus seems to be that no, it is not. The information appears later in the article, where it belongs. _signed, Willondon (talk) 13:20, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

hello i thinkwe should mention that it is considered one of the "mukkani" (three fruits[tamil]): 1."maa" (mango) 2. "palaa" (jackfruit) 3."vaalai"(banana) this is intamil culture so suggest adding inculture significance.103.114.211.67 (talk) 07:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

We would need a source for that. There's also the issue of whether this is important enough to include in the lede, or if a mention in the body of the article is enough. In my opinion, it doesn't belong in the lede. _signed, Willondon (talk) 14:40, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

ok, I see. Then lets not argue.103.114.211.67 (talk) 15:51, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Tree versus fruit

this article includes info on the use of the wood. that would properly be in an article on the tree/plant in its entirety. its the wood for making veenas? and gamelan drums? thats wildly significant. i propose that we split this into 2 articles, on on the plant, and one on the fruit. i know, i could just do it myself. i dont edit much any more, so prob wont get to it.174.195.88.232 (talk) 17:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

resinous part

appears that dawn dish detergent can clean skin of the resin. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 17:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)