Talk:Tabasco

Donations

I was startled and unsettled to find a wikipedia article promoting aid organizations - this one had a request (with links) for people to send money to the Red Cross and such to help with the flooding. I deleted that. If anyone has an objection tell me why. Frogs (talk) 20:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Photo request

{{Photo requested}} The state of Tabasco is beautiful, are there more pictures available?//

Five years later You are right, Tabasco is beautiful. Photos have been added so I removed the request. jonkerz♠ 10:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Tobasco?

I'm native of Tabasco and I have never heard of "Tobasco" spelling? Can anyone confirm the source of this. I'm reasearching in my history books.

I've seen a few 19th century maps printed in the US with that spelling. I don't know if it was particularly common. -- Infrogmation 00:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Spanish Page

The Spanish Tabasco page is much more extensive than this one, someone should make an effort to translate into English.

I can work on that. Frogs (talk) 20:12, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I am originally from Tabasco and it is never been said in any history books anything ralated with Tobasco, the chances that it is a mistake are very high

I will make an effor to translate the spanish Tabasco page i will apritiate if once it is done some one can correct my possible grammar mistakes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.141.84.87 (talk) 17:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Why Tobasco?

I may just not be the wiki-type, as the information I'm looking for is almost never readily apparent on any given wiki page I vist. I often have to go looking through several wiki pages to find what I thought should of been on the first. Despite that though, I feel this page could realy benifet from some brief mention on what the name "tobasco" is from. Was it someone's last name? Is it a spanish word for chili peper sauce? I mean, seriously, I think that many Americans are probably like me, and only really found this wiki page while looking into the word tabasco itself. Perhaps, as I did, they will think that this town in Mexico is somehow related to there favorite hot sauce.

I spent some time looking at other wiki pages and I guess tobasco is just the name of a kind of pepper. Would it be proper of someone to put a link somewhere on this page to a different page that explains the name a little? Like perhaps linking to the actual Tobasco sauce wiki page? I'd do it, but everytime I've ever tried to edit a page it just got me flamed by wiki users that ultimately reverted my work. Feel free to delete this request if putting this link on the page would somehow violate the spirit of the wiki. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.152.224.226 (talk) 20:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC).

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved back to original name — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:56, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

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Tabasco (Mexican state) → Tabasco — This is the name of the Mexican state. No other state in the world is named Tabasco. A user moved the article to "Tabasco (Mexican state)" arguing that the Tabasco sauce was "more important". AlexCovarrubias ^{( Talk? )} 17:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Support - The article title Tabasco has always been the article of the Mexican state of that name. The reason for the move seems ridiculous ("the sauce is more important"). The sauce is and always has been in the article Tabasco sauce. AlexCovarrubias ^{( Talk? )} 17:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose The disambiguation page should be primary. In English, google search the sauce and the pepper are more prominent than the Mexican state. 65.95.15.144 (talk) 20:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose. The State of Tabasco is not the main topic. This is a NPOV encyclopedia.
  • http://stats.grok.se/en/201102/Tabasco_sauce - 16631 hits
  • http://stats.grok.se/en/201102/Tabasco - 8486 hits
  • http://stats.grok.se/en/201102/Tabasco_pepper 5944 hits Chihuahua State (talk) 21:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Comment Chihuahua State (talk · contribs) moved this article Tabasco (Mexican state) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) . -- 65.95.15.144 (talk) 22:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

NOTE Chihuahua State has been blocked as a sockpuppet of a community banned editor [1] -- nsaum75 ^{!Dígame¡‎} 18:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Note - Per WP rules, sockpuppet votes does not count. AlexCovarrubias ^{( Talk? )} 00:43, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - I found the rule: Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Is_there_a_primary_topic.3F much more likely than any other, and more likely than all the others combined - So if one combines the pepper and the sauce, then one gets ca 22000. The state fails to reach anything near 22000. If anything is primary, then it would be the sauce. Chihuahua State (talk) 03:18, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - Tabasco (Mexican state) is the incorrect MoS for this article; It should be "Tabasco (state)" if indeed the hot sauce is to remain the primary titled page. -- nsaum75 ^{!Dígame¡‎} 03:22, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
• Support. Tabasco is a state. Tabasco sauce is a sauce. Tabasco peppers are peppers. They are three separate topics with no conflict among titles (i.e., none could take the title of any other), so it doesn't make sense to compare them or unnecessarily disambiguate a title. Station1 (talk) 04:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
  • (Note: there were hundreds of broken links, so I redirected Tabasco back here pending conclusion of this discussion and/or fixing the incoming links. If anyone objects, please revert. Station1 (talk) 05:01, 3 March 2011 (UTC) )
• Support per nom and Station1. jonkerz♠ 04:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
• Support per nom and Station1. Is anyone here seeing a pattern?? hmmmm -- nsaum75 ^{!Dígame¡‎} 07:10, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose; there is no primary topic for Tabasco. Powers ^T 14:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
• Support If Tabasco peppers are named after the State, and the sauce after the peppers, the primary topic is the State. Tbhotch* ^{۩ ۞} 02:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
  • That's not consistent with how we usually determine primary topics. For example, Boston is the city in Massachusetts. It was named after the town of Boston, Lincolnshire, but that doesn't make the latter the primary topic! Powers ^T 14:55, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
• Support Tabasco refers to the state, there is no conflict in name as the sauce is Tabasco sauce. 08OceanBeach SD (talk) 02:06, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
• Support Avoid parenthetical disambiguation in titles when possible, and that is the case here. "Tabasco" is the complete name of the state; "Tabasco sauce" is the complete name of the food product. After the move, this article should have a hat note like:

This article is about the Mexican state. For the hot sauce, see Tabasco sauce. For other uses, see Tabasco (disambiguation).

— Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:02, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Why are we even having a requested move discussion; the article was unilaterally moved by a now banned user only two days ago, without any discussion at that time. Prior to that, the article had always been at Tabasco. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:48, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing. The move was made with a sockpuppet account, in a clear violation of an impossed ban. We have to contact an administrator in order to move back the article. Also it is important to notice that most of the people support the move. AlexCovarrubias ^{( Talk? )} 21:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm an admin; consider it done. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:56, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Orphaned references in Tabasco

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Tabasco's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "inegi":

• From Tamaulipas: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 7, 2011.
• From Chihuahua (state): "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 9, 2011.
• From Quintana Roo: "Relieve". Cuentame INEGI. Retrieved April 6, 2011.
• From Oaxaca, Oaxaca: "Resultados 2005 ITER" (in Spanish). INEGI. Retrieved 8 September 2009.
• From Veracruz: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 9, 2011.
• From Guanajuato, Guanajuato: "Conteo de Población y Vivienda 2005" (in Spanish). Mexico: INEGI. Retrieved November 16, 2010. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |trans_title= ignored (|trans-title= suggested) (help)
• From Zacatecas: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 9, 2011.
• From San Luis Potosí: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 6, 2011.
• From List of Mexican states by population: (in Spanish) Website of the National Institute of Statistics, Geography, and Data Processing
• From State of Mexico: INEGI (1997). Estado de México Guía Turística]. INEGI. ISBN 970-13-1194-9.
• From Yucatán: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 9, 2011.
• From Zihuatanejo: "Principales resultados por localidad 2005 (ITER)" (in Spanish). Mexico City: INEGI. Retrieved 2009-10-14. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |trans_title= ignored (|trans-title= suggested) (help)
• From Cuernavaca: "Principales resultados por localidad 2005 (ITER)" (in Spanish). INEGI. Retrieved 2009-09-28.
• From Sonora: "Mexico en Cifras". INEGI. Retrieved April 6, 2011.
• From Pachuca: "Principales resultados por localidad 2005 (ITER)". INEGI. Retrieved 2009-10-08.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 00:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Origin of cacao?

Introduction has this sentence: "The state is also the origin of the cocoa bean, from which chocolate is made." This either needs some very good references or to just be deleted. AFAICT, about the most that can be said is that Tabasco was a while back part of the Olmec civilization, which is one of the earliest (or the earliest) civilizations to cultivate cacao... but that cacao is probably not -from- Tabasco, but brought up from South America. So... part of the origin of cultivated cacao, apparently, but not the origin of cacao, not the sole origin of cacao cultivation.Paalexan (talk) 03:54, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Secession

Tabasco seceded from Mexico in 1841 and again in 1846. This seems like a pretty important point of history, but it is not mentioned in the English version of this page. I don't speak Spanish but it looks like the events are addressed in that version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:5640:8660:81FB:2D9A:6879:EB4A (talk) 06:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Early Maya

An unnamed Maya site is said to be 3K y.o. - http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/aguada-fenix-monument-08503.html . Kdammers (talk) 05:57, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Infobox flag RFC

Should this article have a flag inside the infobox? There is a discussion about it at WikiProject Mexico, where you can join and discuss it. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 20:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

"...Mayan phrase meaning 'our lord of the eight tigers'"

How could the Mayans possibly have a native word for "tiger"? Tigers are not native to the New World. Perhaps the Mayan word actually meant jaguar? What is the (ultimate) source for this claim? I will mark that claim as 'dubious' for now. 2600:1702:4960:1DE0:5CAB:B9C5:3234:C105 (talk) 19:36, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Its been almost two years with no update, I am removing mention of this 'translation' 108.51.64.250 (talk) 02:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)