Talk:James Coco

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Sexual orientation was apparently straight; we only have one source on his ever having a relationship.

I took "gay" out of the lead since Coco's public persona wasn't that of a gay person. It's not an essential part of his identification, any more than his religion or politics. I didn't put it anywhere else because I wasn't sure where (or whether) it should go, since I'm not sure how well-established his sexuality was. If he was open about it, it could be a sentence to that effect down lower in the article - particularly if he became open about it later in life. - DavidWBrooks 20:07, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Either he was gay or he wasn't, so there's no need to remove factual statements. And, of course it's an important and pertinent part of his "persona" -- many of his roles were written to be implicitly gay including his nominated performance in "Only When I Laugh."

James Coco was not gay. In one of the few magazine interviews he gave during the 1970s, he described a months-long relationship with female comic Rusty Warren. It was the same interview in which he recalled his first job, which was serving customers at a "milk bar" (his words) at Grand Central Station during the 1940s. While working there he accidentally spilled hot coffee on several customers and was fired. As you can see, I'm familiar with the available sources about Mr. Coco's career and life. The article should not reference anything about his private life because his only known relationship (using published sources) was the one with Ms. Warren. 67.203.140.101 (talk) 05:32, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources are not accurate by virtue of their "publicness" alone. Its public nature in fact puts its validity in question - gay men hid their sexuality from the public. To further state the obvious, it was common to maintain a private gay life and maintain a false persona in public. Under the sole premise that sources need be public in order to be acceptable, we effectively write the vast majority of gay men out of history completely. It's therefore unfair to eliminate the question of his sexuality from the article. We cannot assume someone is heterosexual on the basis of one potentially questionable source, or even by default. Provided that there is sufficient source material, (which there may not be), the article should talk about scholarly speculation (I differentiate this from tabloid or salacious speculation) on his sexuality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.211.168.17 (talk) 15:38, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Possible copyright infringement

Since when is listing the filmography posted on an individual's IMDb entry considered "copyright infringement"? Other than Coco's film credits, nothing else on that site appeared in his Wiki article, so I hardly think there was any "infringement" involved. In any event, I have rewritten the article and added info to it to satisfy the copywright "police". SFTVLGUY2 14:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This issue is the list is copied verbatim, with minor changes, from IMDB which is, according to IMDB, violates their copyright. The list needs to be reformulated so it can't be distinctly recognized as a copy of imdb. The wikipedia standard normally lists films from oldest to newest. Wikipedia also lists film and television appearances as separate.

From IMDB: "Copyright - All content included on this site, such as text, graphics, logos, button icons, images, audio clips, video clips, digital downloads, data compilations, and software, is the property of IMDb or its content suppliers and protected by United States and international copyright laws. The compilation of all content on this site is the exclusive property of IMDb and protected by U.S. and international copyright laws. All software used on this site is the property of IMDb or its software suppliers and protected by United States and international copyright laws." Philbertgray 14:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

imDb can claim anything they want to, but facts are not copyrightable. In order to qualify for copyright, a "work" must be original, and fixed in a medium. A list of Tom Cruise's films is not copyrightable. Facts are not copyrightable. Commentary on iMdB, User Reviews, are copyrightable, and iMdB does have rights in those. But many websites, companies, etc. claim "copyright" in things to which they do not own copyright--which are not even copyrightable; it happens all the time. Taking a list of Coco's films from iMdB violates no copyright. Taking their list of "100 Greatest Films" would be different. 207.237.79.219 (talk) 05:29, 22 June 2012 (UTC) Allen Roth[reply]

Wrong date of death?

If you check out the IMDB page it says he did work upto 1989, but it says here he died in 1987

Occasionally, a movie is filmed while an actor is still alive, yet it is released after the actor has died. In other words, the film is released posthumously. This typically explains why film years in Internet Movie Database sometimes seem to "contradict" the years of an actor's life-span. I would assume that such is the case with James Coco. He performed in many films prior to his 1987 death, but two such films were released after he died: one in 1988 (The Chair) and another in 1989 (That's Adequate). Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro, 2 October 2009)

Probably also Hunk (film) was released after his death, since Coco died early in 1987 and it's unlikely the film was released in January or February of that year. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:19, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Missing a film credit

What about his appearances on “who’s the boss ?” 2603:6081:57F0:8DF0:A84B:DB8C:120C:41BC (talk) 06:02, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sexual orientation

The Boze Hadley book states plainly that James Coco was gay: "February, 1987, saw the passing of three gay celebrities: James Coco, Liberace, and Andy Warhol." (p. 111) The chapter also contains an interview with Coco himself where he talks of his experiences being gay in Hollywood. Furthermore, one does not have to be in a relationship to be considered gay. ... discospinster _talk 01:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have Boze Hadleigh’s book in front of me. He does not state plainly that James Coco was gay. Coco was dead for more than eight years when Hadleigh wrote the book. He was speculating. The chapter on Coco starts on page 111: “February 1987, saw the passing of three gay celebrities. … Only the one who died of AIDS was noted in the media as homosexual.” In the chapter on Coco, Hadleigh never proves his assertion. In another Hadleigh book, Conversations With My Elders, he fabricated an interview with Sal Mineo. Regardless of Mineo’s sexuality, he didn’t say what Hadleigh says he said. Hadleigh is not an RS by Wikipedia standards. Brent Brant (talk) 07:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

p. 128, Hadleigh describes Coco's role in Only When I Laugh as "a gay actor playing a gay character", and Coco replies "a gay overweight actor playing someone gay and overweight." You can challenge Hadleigh's reliability if you want (that's what WP:RS/N is for), but that phrase is pretty unequivocal. DS (talk) 19:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]