Talk:Władysław I Herman

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King Vladislaus or Wladislaus (never Ladislaus)

The king name was Władysław in Polish and was also spelled: Wladislaus (early Latinized version) or Vladislaus (late Latin and English version), never Ladislaus. This shoud be corrected. Below is a sample of original documents sign by the Vladislaus kings. Althout the form Wladislaus was used more often, in my opinion Vladislaus is much better here, beacuse it is more modern version and more English. Vladislaus Rex 00:33, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

King Vladislaus I the Short (Władysław I Łokietek)

• 27.02.1298: Wladislaus Dei gracia, dux Regni Polonie et dominus Pomerania, Cuiavie, Lancicie as Siradie
• 7.03.1298: Wladislaus ...
• 1.09.1999: Wladislaus ...

King Vladislaus II Jagiello (Władysław II Jagiełło)

• 3.05.1386: Wladislaus Dei gracia rex Polonie Litwanieque princeps supremus et heres Russie etc.
• 30.09.1388: Wladislaus Dei gracia rex Polonie necnon terrarum Cracouie, Sandomirie, Syradia, Lancicie, Cuiauie, Lithuanie princeps supremus, Pomoranie Russieque dominus et heres etc.
• 22.04.1389: Wladislaus ...
• 28.01.1392: Wladislaus ...
• 10.05.1394: Wladislaus ...
• 11.04.1409: Wlodislaus (sic! with o) ...
• 12.12.1410: Wladislaus ...
• 17.07.1416: Wladislaus ...
• 6.09.1422: Wladislavs (sic! with v)...
• 24.06.1425: Wladislaus ...

King Vladislaus III of Varna (Władysław III Warneńczyk)

• 21.12.1436: Wladislaus Dei gratia rex Polonie Lithwanieque princeps supremus et heres Russie
• 16.12.1438: Wladislaus Tercius Dei gracia rex Polonie necnon terrarum Cracouie, Sandomirie, Syradie, Lancicie, Cuiauie, Lithwanieque princeps supremus, Pomeranie Russie dominus et heres et cetera
• 5.03.1440: Wladislaus Tercius ...
• 5.03.1440: Wladislaus Tercius ...
• 11.06.1443: Wladislaus Dei gracia Hungarie, Polonie, Dalmacie, Croacie etc. rex Litwanieque princes supremus et heres Russie etc.
• 11.06.1443: Wladislaus ...
• 17.04.1444: Wladislaus ...
• 19.04.1444: Wladislaus Dei gracia Polonie, Hungarie, Dalmacie, Croacie etc. rex Lithwaniaque princeps supremus et heres Russie etc.
• 18.08.1444: Wladislaus Dei gracia Polonie, Hungarie, Dalmacie, Croacie etc. tex necnon terrarum Cracouie, Samdomirie, Syradie, Lancicie, Cuyauie, Lithwanie princeps supremus, Pomeranie, Russieque dominus et heres etc.
• 18.08.1444: Wladislaus ...
• 27.08.1444: Wladislaus

King Vladislaus IV Vasa (Władysław IV Waza)

• 20.02.1633: Vladislaus Quartus Dei gratia rex Poloniae, magnus dux Lithuaniae, Russiae, Prussiae, Masoviae, Samogitiae, Livoniaeque, necnon Suecorum, Gothorum Vandalorumque haereditarius rex, electus magnus dux Moschoviae
• 12.03.1633: Wladislaus Quartus ...
• 14.08.1634: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 17.03.1637: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 24.03.1637: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 7.05.1638: Vladislaus IV ...
• 30.09.1641: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 24.03.1646: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 16.05.1646: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 16.05.1646: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 1.09.1647: Vladislaus Quartus ...

Naming

As per Talk:List_of_Polish_monarchs#Naming:

• first name Google test, Englis pages only:
  • Wladyslaw/Władysław - 410,000
  • Wladislaw - 45,000
  • Vladislav - 1,040,000
  • Ladislaw - 25,000
  • Ladislav - 803,000
  • Wladyslawus - 5 (discarding)
  • Wladislaus - 11,000
  • Vladislaus - 9,600
  • Ladislaus - 111,000
• moving on to second name variants
  • Herman
  • Wladyslaw Herman/Władysław Herman - 844
  • Wladislaw Herman - 327
  • Vladislav Herman - 6
  • Ladislaw Herman - 2
  • Ladislav Herman - 2
  • Wladislaus Herman - 121
  • Vladislaus Herman - 1
  • Ladislaus Herman - 165
  • I of Poland
  • Wladyslaw I of Poland/Władysław I of Poland - 150
  • Wladislaw I of Poland - 34
  • Vladislav I of Poland - 103
  • Ladislaw I of Poland - none
  • Ladislav I of Poland - none
  • Wladislaus I of Poland - 484
  • Vladislaus I of Poland - 59
  • Ladislaus I of Poland - 112
  • I Herman
  • Wladyslaw I Herman/Władysław I Herman - 1,220
  • Wladislaw I Herman - 1,170
  • Vladislav I Herman - 167
  • Ladislaw I Herman - 11
  • Ladislav I Herman - none
  • Wladislaus I Herman - 148
  • Vladislaus I Herman - 350
  • Ladislaus I Herman - 383

Although Vladislav (1m) and Ladislav (800k) seem to be more popular then Wladyslaw (400k), Wladyslaw and Władysław (which is the correct proper spelling) trump them in historical context search by about 2300 to 173 (Vladislav) / 2 (Ladislav). Wladislaw gets about 1500, and the the most popular of the latiznized -us variants is Wladislaus with 800 (this is including Wiki and its mirrors). Therefore Władysław seem to be the best choice for the first name (same as in original language and the most popular).

Second name: Herman 1500, I of Poland about 1100 and I Herman about 2500. Therefore the move to Władysław I Herman seems the best choice.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 02:32, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

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