Wikipedia:Cleanup Taskforce/Wars of Scottish Independence
The cleanup tag has remained on this article since February 21, 2005. Adraeus 08:01, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
- Added to User:WHaggett/Desk W.Haggett 10:09, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
- Copied from Talk:Wars of Scottish Independence:
- I feel this article needs cleanup, for 2 reasons. Firstly, the term First War of Independence is normally used for the Wallace period and Second War of Independence for the Bruce period. I have never seen the term Second War of Independence used for the Balliol wars before. I also suggest creating an article "Disputed Scots Succession of 1290-92" since this is a complex issue, at present information of various accuracy and detail is spread between various articles, this one and biographies of the leading figures. I might do that myself, but before that I ought to check the definitive biography of Bruce. PatGallacher 16:39, 2005 Feb 21 (UTC)
- Removed from User:WHaggett/Desk; this user seems to no longer be contributing to Wikipedia. -- Beland 05:18, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Added to User:Jareth/Desk (European history). -- Beland 05:48, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- After a bit of library diving, I can find no reference to either the First or Second War of Independence used consistently. Experts vary widely on their use of the terms, some discarding them completely and naming each battle instead; since I can find no concensus, I'm leaving the article as is. Someone has already changed the Scots Succession to Important Figures as per the second note in cleanup so I'm removing the cleanup tag. The article has been considerably improved since the cleanup tag was first placed.
The references I used were:
- Croft, Dickinson W. (1977):Scotland from Earliest Times to 1603:Oxford:ISBN 0198224656
- Grant, Alexander (1991):Independence and Nationhood : Scotland 1306 - 1469:Edinburgh University Press:ISBN 0748602739
- Watson, Fiona (1998):Under the Hammer: Edward I and Scotland, 1286-1307:Tuckwell Press:ISBN 1862320209
- McNamee, Colm (1997):The Wars of the Bruces : Scotland, England and Ireland, 1306-1328:Tuckwell Press:ISBN 1898410925
- Prestwich, Michael (1992):The Three Edwards: War and State in England, 1272-1377:Routledge:ISBN 0415051339