Talk:Maquis (Star Trek)

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Is there any evidence in Roddenberry's works to show where he found the Maquis name? Saying offhandedly that he used the WW2 model strikes me as speculative. --Eclecticology, Monday, June 3, 2002

Im pretty sure Roddenberry was dead by the time the maquis appeared in star trek.

Based on ST:VOY The Killing Game[1][2], which was set in WW2 France, they seem to have based the name on the French Maquis. The Maquis debuted in The Maquis, Part 1[3] in 1994, after Gene Roddenberry's death in 1991. - Ke4roh 00:39, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

The French or the Spanish maquis. Check both Maquis (World War II) and Spanish Maquis. I think it's quite obvious where the went to look for "inspiration" for the name... ;) Swamp Greetings (talk) 12:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

It says here that there is criticism of the Maquis being irrational, clinging to ceded colony worlds when they could have been painlessly relocated to any of thousands of other colony worlds. In the real world, how many conflicts are there that arise from irrational reasons? I'd say that it is a very accurate depiction of human nature. Tabun1015 04:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

• The "book title to be confirmed" bit (under Parallels) still needs to be updated/fixed, sorry I can't elaborate here myself as I'm unfamiliar with the ST-based novels. 68.233.12.105 23:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Comparing the Maquis to Zapatistas and Al Qaeda and asserting that Eddington's statement reflects a rejection of neo-liberalism is entirely POV. One could easily argue the exact opposite, and say that the Maquis in general and Eddington in particular are extreme neo-liberal anarcho-capitalists that have rejected Federation collectivism and resorted to extreme use of force in order to protect property rights. I am removing the offending segment from the entry. -- SegPhault

The name may have been based on the WWII maquis, but surely the story is at least a little inspired by Cherryh's Mazianni, from her Alliance/Union universe? The idea is exactly the same: colonies abandoned, some locals refuse to evacuate, and a quasi-military force forms to protect them. Cherryh is such a widely read influence in space opera it's hard to see how a science fiction writing team could not have known this. I always thought it was a nod to her influence, I'm surprised to not see it noted here. Baron ridiculous (talk) 04:02, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Seska?

Wasn't Seska a Cardassian infiltrator? If she's going to be listed you might as well put Tuvok in there, as he did the same thing for the Federation. Zkissane

Any source on the Israeli-Palestinian reference?

Is there any source for the Israeli-Palestinian reference?

Sounds like a POV statement to me. It should be edited out. 84.137.59.159 11:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Not sure if it's POV, but definitely speculative. Theshibboleth 00:47, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Non-canon Ending

It mentions that in a novelization of the Voyager finale that some ex-Maquis on Voyager joined the Federation to fight the Dominion. That's kind of odd since the war had been over for well over a year in Star Trek. Seems that either the book author was completely ignorant of Star Trek, or whoever posted that made a bad speculation.

TNG

My recollection is that the Maquis was originally introduced on The Next Generation. If not, they were at least featured in several episodes concurrently with their appearance on DS9. However, this article does not mention any link to the TNG series.-PK9 19:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Preemptive Strike(TNG), the only TNG ep in which the Maquis appeared, premiered on 5.16.94.[4] The Maquis part I, the first DS9 ep in which they appeared, premiered on 4.24.94.[5] So it would appear that they first appeared on DS9 three weeks before they appeared on TNG. Nightscream 01:05, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

No, the first reference to the Maquis was in the 5th season episode "Ro Karen", which aired before DS9 even began BrandenburgHorse (talk) 07:17, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

That Autocorrected from "Ro Laren" BrandenburgHorse (talk) 07:18, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Name origin

Regarding the origin of the inspiration of the phase "maquis":

• The STE says, "The name Maquis was used by members of the French underground in World War II."
• DS9 companion reads the Maquis "was a name used for French freedom fighters during World War II"
• "A Vision of the Future" by Stephen Poe reads (i.e. third-party material, not stemming from a license), "The search for a twentieth-century parallel to the outlaw group's identity eventually lead to a band of French resistance fighters in Nazi-occupied France during World War II known as the Maquis."
• Star Trek 101 by Terry Erdmann reads, "They called themselves the Maquis, after members of the French underground who fought against the Nazis in World War II."

I can't find any reference in these texts to inspiration relating to the Spanish Maquis. If the editor can provide a specific quote from either licensed or third-party material substantiating such a claim, that's swell; otherwise, the assertion is unfounded. Yes, the groups share a name, but assertion a connection between the Star Trek group and the Spanish Maquis appears merely to be an inference. --EEMIV (talk) 22:31, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Not one mention of Bajor?

Does anyone find it just a little odd that you won't find any mention of the Bajorans in this article? I suspect Cardassian hackers. BrandenburgHorse (talk) 07:20, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

TNG aired before DS9

> first introduced in the 1994 episode "The Maquis" of the television series Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, and subsequently appearing in Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Voyager.

This is incorrect because TNG first introduced the Maquis in Journey's End (Star Trek: The Next Generation) in March 1994, and before DS9 aired The Maquis (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine) in April 1994, therefore they were introduced in TNG before DS9 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SemicolonExpected (talk • contribs) 18:15, 14 October 2021 (UTC)