Talk:Der Judenstaat

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Hertzl opposed the efforts already made by Zionist groups to settle Jews in Ottoman-controlled Palestine, arguing that "important experiments in colonization have been made, though on the mistaken principle of a gradual infiltration of Jews. An infiltration is bound to end badly. It continues till the inevitable moment when the native population feels itself threatened, and forces the government to stop a further influx of Jews. Immigration is consequently futile unless we have the sovereign right to continue such immigration.” (Quoted from The Jewish State, translated by Sylvie d’Avigdor, Nutt, London, 1896, and reprinted by Dover, 1988, p. 95.) Which the state of Israel now has and so continue the process of colonization through the construction of "settlements" or what is really just a nice way of saying colonies. WTF? I deleted this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.209.162 (talk) 10:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eretz Yisrael

". . . in the realization of a Jewish state in Eretz Yisrael."

I find the use of "Eretz Yisrael" in the context to be highly biased. Eretz Yisrael is a name used by a certain group of people, and the Jewish state was established in the occupied fragment of the Ottoman Empire. It would be appropriate to mention that many Jews called the land "Eretz Israel," but I don't think it is appropriate to begin the article using the term as if it was a proper objective description of the land where Israel was established. The article is *about* a book that is related to foundation of Zionism, but the article should be written from an objective and not Zionist perspective. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.248.68.252 (talk) 19:50, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Review and criticism ?

Why is there no section dealing with literary review and criticism, and none for political criticism ? The book is definitely controversial. ♆ CUSH ♆ 17:51, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vandals Removed Content

Restore removed content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.23.47.69 (talk) 14:18, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Exact translation of title

The article currently starts with Der Judenstaat (German, literally The Jews' State), but this is wrong. Der Staat der Juden is German for "The Jews' State". Der Judenstaat literally means "The Jew State". This might seem like a minor nitpick, but when Wikipedia says "literally", it should be precise. Gabbe (talk) 09:34, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I had made an edit that reflected this previously at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Der_Judenstaat&oldid=644744077, but someone changed it to "Jew's state" in a later edit.

185.31.142.251 (talk) 17:57, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Link problem

The citation link, currently #8, to the English translation of Der Judenstaat at gutenberg.org leads to Error 404 though that in External links leads to the download page. Mcljlm (talk) 17:05, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Fixed. Freelance-frank (talk) 19:13, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Identifying a source

Can anyone identify "Michael Stein, Collected Essays in the History of Zionism, Tel Aviv, 1954"? It was added by an IP in 2019. Could be a Hebrew book. Zero^talk 00:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]