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What is the reason for that category?--Witkacy 23:00, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Rumors

Should "rumors" (that Czartoryski was the result of his mother's affair with a Russian ambassador, and that he himself was a lover of the Empress consort to Tsar Alexander I) be in the article's lead? I suggest that they be moved to appropriate places in the body of the article. Nihil novi 18:06, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As to Adam Czartoryski's love affair with Louise of Baden, it has been confirmed by passages from Czartoryski's diary that had not been published in the 19th-century edition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ladauphine284 (talk • contribs) 16:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the rumour about Repnin to Early life section. The problem is that the two "rumours" aren't equivalent. Repnin left Poland two years before Adam Czartoryski was born, and there's no prove whatsoever that Repnin might be his father. There's only some malicious gossip. Izabela did have an affair with Repnin, but it was after Adam was born. On the other hand, Czartoryski's own romance with Louise of Baden is a fact, and is well described in his own memoirs, as well as those of others.--SylwiaS | talk 06:14, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvios

Some sentences taken from [1]: This book is, according to the historian Marian Kamil Dziewanowski, indispensable to an understanding of the Prince's many activities conducted in France's capital following the ill-fated Polish November 1830 Uprising. Czartoryski wanted to find a place for Poland in the Europe of the time. Poland, in his concept, could have mediated the conflicts between Hungary and the Slavs, and between Hungary and Romania. Czartoryski's plan seemed achievable during the period of national revolutions in 1848-49 but foundered on lack of western support, on Hungarian intransigence toward the Czechs, Slovaks and Romanians, and on the rise of German nationalism.

Some of these sentences are also present in the Międzymorze article. Novickas (talk) 17:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On which page of Central-European Case Studies does this text appear? Nihil novi (talk) 09:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pages 245-246. Novickas (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also on those pages: Czartoryski aspired above all to reconstitute — with French, British and Turkish support — a Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth federated with the Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians, Romanians and all the South Slavs of the future Yugoslavia. Article: Above all, however, he aspired to reconstitute — with French, British and Turkish support — a Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth federated with the Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians, Romanians and all the South Slavs of the future Yugoslavia. Novickas (talk) 14:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism does indeed appear to have been perpetrated—by Matylda Urjasz-Raczko, author of "Intermarium—History of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth or an Alternative for the Future? The Polish Perspective", in Central-European Case Studies, volume 2, Győr, Universitas-Győr Nonprofit Kft, 2008, ISSN 2060-0461, pp. 245–46. The sentences in question first appeared three years earlier, in the 06:15, 25 September 2005, edition of "Międzymorze" on the English-language Wikipedia. Nihil novi (talk) 17:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Astonishing, good catch. I was giving the author the benefit of the doubt, since its provenance looked so scholarly. No need to pursue further, then. Novickas (talk) 19:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]