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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 4, 2012	Peer review	Reviewed

Section sizes

Section size for Georgia (U.S. state) (49 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	13,593	13,593
History	15,181	15,181
Geography	252	20,905
Boundaries	3,938	3,938
Geology and terrain	1,073	1,073
Ecology	1,966	1,966
Climate	9,620	9,620
Major cities	4,056	4,056
Demographics	6,302	31,035
Race and ethnicity	13,498	13,498
Languages	2,178	2,178
Religion	7,114	7,114
Native American tribes	1,943	1,943
Economy	6,910	35,958
Industries	2,110	22,180
Agriculture	944	944
Arts	13	7,097
Film	3,360	3,788
Films set in Georgia	428	428
Literature	824	824
Music	1,336	1,336
Television	1,136	1,136
Energy	1,866	1,866
Logistics	5,184	5,184
Military	630	630
Mining	342	342
Tourism	4,007	4,007
Sports	4,669	4,669
Taxes	2,199	2,199
Culture	167	2,344
Fine and performing arts	2,177	2,177
Education	6,666	6,666
Media	3,747	3,747
Government	60	31,777
State government	3,467	3,467
Local government	4,346	4,346
Elections	15,238	15,238
Politics	8,666	8,666
Parks and recreational activities	3,324	3,324
Infrastructure	19	5,370
Transportation	4,348	4,348
Health care	1,003	1,003
Notable people	1,991	1,991
State symbols	1,883	1,883
See also	148	148
Notes	24	24
References	28	28
Bibliography	678	678
External links	2,024	2,024
Total	176,676	176,676

This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, Not moved, 19 August 2013, Discussion
RM, Georgia (U.S. state) → Georgia, U.S., Withdrawn, 24 July 2014, Discussion
RM, Georgia (U.S. state) → Georgia (state), Not moved, 23 November 2016, Discussion
RM, Georgia (U.S. state) → Georgia (American state), Not moved, 5 January 2018, Discussion
RM, Georgia (U.S. state) → Georgia (state), Not moved, 6 April 2019, Discussion
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, Not moved, 11 July 2021, Discussion
RM, Georgia → Georgia (disambiguation), Procedural close, 17 January 2022, Discussion
RM, Georgia → Georgia (disambiguation), Speedy close, 24 April 2022, Discussion
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, Not moved, 29 September 2023, Discussion

Older discussions:

RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, Opposed, 2003
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, Opposed, 6 May 2004, Discussion (Poll)
RM, Georgia (country) → Republic of Georgia, Opposed, 23 May 2005, Discussion
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, No consensus, 5 July 2006, Discussion
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, No consensus, 11 July 2007, Discussion
RM, Georgia (country) → Georgia, No consensus, 15 March 2008, Discussion

The "Georgia" move discussions in a nutshell:

On Wikipedia, the placing of a word in parentheses in the title of an article is primarily used as a method of disambiguation, with the parenthesised word usually being a set that the article's subject is a part of.
The basic debate has been whether the Eurasian country should be the primary topic, and therefore does not need any parenthesised word in the title. Those in favor of such a move often argue that internationally recognised countries should take precedence over sub-national units like the U.S. state, though there are other suggested reasons for primary topic. Some proponents of a move have also argued that the current failure to recognize Georgia (the country) as the primary topic displays a U.S.-centric bias.
Opponents of such a renaming note that under Wikipedia's guidelines, the primary topic can be determined based on which one is significantly more commonly searched for and read than other meanings as well as which one is more important or significant. They generally dispute that the U.S. state of Georgia is any less important; in fact, given the significantly greater size of its population, economy (especially its film industry), geographical area, and main airport, many argue the U.S. state is actually more important despite sharing some of its sovereignty with the United States federal government and not having a seat in the United Nations. They have also argued in the past that since the Eurasian country was (at the time of the above linked discussions) being actually slightly less searched for than the U.S. state, the former should not be the primary topic. Based on all of the foregoing factors, some contend the U.S. state should be the primary topic with no qualifier in its title. Some opponents have also argued that having Georgia as a disambiguation page is a better way to catch cases where an article contains wikilinks to the bare name "Georgia" that should be disambiguated.

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"State of Georgia" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect State of Georgia has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 9 § State of Georgia until a consensus is reached. Estar8806 (talk) 23:56, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"City (Georgia)" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect City (Georgia) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 5 § City (Georgia) until a consensus is reached. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:07, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yet another RM request

Someone is again requesting that Georgia (Country) be moved to Georgia. Given that it would impact this page, I think it's worth mentioning here. See the discussion here. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 04:45, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:State of Georgia (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 03:50, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is U.S. really necessary?

Yes, there’s two Georgias. However, the other Georgia is a country, not a state. A state is not a country, meaning there’s only one thing that could be logically referred to as a state. Unless there’s another country with a state system and a Georgia, then it’s an unnecessary disambiguation. If there is, I congratulate Georgia on her successful mitosis. However, in case some people say this is too ambiguous, in the interest of maximum clarity so nobody gets confused, I think the name “Georgia, the Fourth Constitutional State of the United States of America (not the country)” would suffice as an alternative. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 15:51, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The term "state" also often refers to a country, i.e. state (polity) and sovereign state. Thus, "Georgia (state)" is still ambiguous. Loytra (talk) 10:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The name “Georgia, the Fourth Constitutional State of the United States of America (not the country)” would not be the right way to go. First off, the average person would say "Georgia, the state," or "Georgia, the U.S. state," if they are referring to Georgia (U.S. State). Second the "(not the country)" part is unnecessary, since it was just said that "Georgia" is in the "United States of America," debunking that, or a person may think that the U.S. is not a country. I'm not trying to insult you, but this proposed name change is unnecessary. Codename Abrix (talk) 19:19, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They were being hyperbolic :P Loytra (talk) 23:16, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]