Talk:Rapids

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On 15 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Rapid. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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I think the grading systems here are both essentially the same as the international grading system (grade I to VI or 1 to 6, also described in Whitewater) which seems to be used almost everywhere now. Do any Australians know any better?

Tebbb 16:47, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

hey whats up I was thinking about adding a note about volume and a quick refernce for conversion between m^3 per second and CFS (cubic feet second)--Stranger 09:28, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)

Merge

Wouldn't it make sense to merge this page with Whitewater? This article is hardly a stub, and most of the material that would serve to advance it to a higher level is already present in the other. Robin Z 18:35, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. The difference between the 2 is not enough for separate articles. -- P199 13:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Whitewater is a concept, a rapid or rapids is a geographic feature. Lots of creeks are whitewater, but some rivers have specific rapids, and which are officially named as such. It's like saying a mountain range and a mountain are the same thing and should be merged.Skookum1 (talk) 15:00, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps instead merging this with International Scale of River Difficulty? Tyzoid (talk) 22:58, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Usage

Ignorant newby here, ignorant about Wikipedia approaches and also about water terminology. Have a question, though. What about the use of the word "rapids" in place names and geographic terminology, concerning tidal whitewater? Arran Rapids north of Stuart Island in B.C., for instance. Is usage and meaning broader than just for rivers? Is historical meaning as important as that assigned by an organization? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.106.108.36 (talk) 10:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are totally right that "rapids" can mean more than what is described in the article. You are welcome to expand on that. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 13:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Rapid" or "Rapids"?

Why is this article titled "Rapid" and not "Rapids"? Both the OED and the American Heritage Dictionary say "usually plural" for this sense of the word "rapid" and I have never seen it used in the singular. . . Jim - Jameslwoodward (talk to me • contribs) 17:43, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done You're right. The article does have references to "categorization of a rapid", which sounds ok, but what exactly is a rapid? --BDD (talk) 20:37, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved, but move Rapid (disambiguation) to Rapid.(closed by non-admin page mover) - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 12:08, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rapids → Rapid – Per WP:SINGULAR. Rafters often talk about hitting a rapid, as in "Class IV rapid". A rapid in this context refers to a contiguous section of rapids, for example "Pierce Ferry Rapid". Jasper Deng (talk) 09:34, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the plural is standard usage—blindlynx 15:01, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Blindlynx: But so is the singular: [1], [2], [3], [4], among numerous others.--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:12, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Dictionaries generally specify that the noun is 'usually plural' [5], [6], [7] or list only the plural as a noun [8] [9]. While the noun does not exist only in plural the plural seems to far exceed singular usage—blindlynx 02:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - That's not what WP:SINGULAR says. The only exception I can see is cattle, for lack of a singular form: only a plurale tantum can be a plural article title.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:27, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      - it points to WP:NCPLURAL that has a bit on irregular plurals and a wp:IAR bit, ultimately i fail to see how this change is a benefit—blindlynx 02:37, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        NCPLURAL doesn't make an exception for this situation either. "Rapids" is not an irregular plural as it is formed from "Rapid" with the appending of an s.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:40, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        it's irregular in the sense that 'rapids' is exceedingly more common—blindlynx 13:26, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I see that "rapid" redirects here, but I don't think this article should be the primary redirect for that term. I'd move Rapid (disambiguation) to Rapid. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:34, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support this, no PRIMARY.--Ortizesp (talk) 23:55, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  support this—blindlynx 13:27, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Singular "rapid" is vague. I agree, maybe we should move Rapid (disambiguation) to Rapid. Steel1943 (talk) 23:17, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:55, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME, and I agree that we should move move Rapid (disambiguation) to Rapid. Paintspot Infez (talk) 16:06, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.