Talk:United States congressional delegations from California

Merger

List of United States Senators from California is basically redundant with U.S. Congressional Delegations from California. --Mark Adler 21:57, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

It sure is. I am for merger --DuKot 06:56, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

I support this merge here and for all State articles with similar redundancies. --Ross 16:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I support merging both lists. Dananderson 03:43, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

I also support the merge, seeing that both articles contain the same information, presumably. SiriusAlphaCMa 03:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Oppose - I wasn't too thrilled to see each state congressional delegation article augmented by these "List of Reps" and "List of Sens" articles. However, some very good work on the navigation templates has been completed and many "list" articles have already been created. I do think that these list articles need to present the information in some other way than repeating what is shown in the 'congression delegation' article--maybe alphabetical.--G1076 22:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Fails - I am removing the merge proposal as this issue has been dormant for a very long time, and a general consensus over all the state articles is for 3 articles: Congressional Delegation, List of Reps, and List of Senators. I will add a todo list to the article to suggest improvements to the article in harmony with the Project Congress article scheme.--G1076 17:19, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Marion Cannon

Note: I'm not entirely sure which district Marion Cannon was in, but that's the only place that really fits. --Golbez 08:17, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)

Will Rogers

The bioguide site says Will Rogers, Jr. was a congressman from Oklahoma, not California. Can anyone clarify? PedanticallySpeaking 19:44, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

I did on your talk. Different guy. --Golbez

Bioguide says that William Vann Rogers, Jr. was a Congressman from California from 1943-1944. Look more carefully next time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mazallen (talk • contribs) 23:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC).

California Congressional Delegations

First a history lesson: California has gained seats in Congress -- which are apportioned on the basis of census results -- in every census since 1850. This means that every ten years, for the last 150 years, California has added new Congressional districts and thus has had to renumber older ones.

Second: wikipedia's editors do not take note of the previous fact and lazily assume that Congressional districts in California having the same number necessarily represent the same place and constituency -- maybe that's the case in England or Australia but definitely not in California! Therefore we find such absurdities as Jane Harman (who has always represented the beachfront Palisades area of LA county) being listed as having "succeeded" George E. Brown (who, again, had always represented the city of San Bernardino -- which, for those of you who do not know, is in the inland desert east of Los Angeles County.) For the record, Brown died in office and was succeeded by "The Honorable" Mr. Joe Baca -- also of San Bernardino.

So, thirdly: will someone please do the research and correct these glaring, howling, errors concerning the California Congressional delegation? A good place to start would be to obtain copies of the Almanac of American Politics (dating from 1975) and read them. For older records, try looking in the Congressional Record (which often lists the places these Congressmen claim residency in -- which often coincide with places within their said districts.) And most of all, consult a map, please ....

Mazallen 23:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC) Mazallen

That someone could be you, Mazallen. Wikipedia pages are editable by anybody!

Constituencies aren't numbered at all in the UK and Australia, FYI. They have names that remain (relatively) stable, which means that this sort of thing is easier to figure out for those countries. --Jfruh (talk) 00:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I made a table of California's seats with the seats arranged in the order they were created and will have it up shortly. In the case of more than one seat having been created, the districts are in the order of the number they were assigned at the time of their creation. I was pretty much able to arrange everyone in the proper order of succession, but had some trouble with arranging the seats for the results of the 1982 election, when the redistricting resulted in some Republican congressmen retiring. The ones I had the most difficulty with trying to place were Wayne Grisham and Bob Dornan. Socal gal at heart (talk) 16:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I started work on ordering the districts so that they are arranged in the proper order of succession, with the first three done so far. Evolution of California's congressional districts --Socal gal at heart (talk) 20:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I've see the original thread started in 2007, so the concerns many not still be there, though the "district succession" succession versus "constituent succession" has been a hot topic for a few editors as evident in various articles throughout Wikipeida. But district number has been the standard for succession for a while now, because its the most practical, (see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_U.S._Congress#Redistricting_and_succession. I've been trading discussions with Socal gal on this. Her Evolution of districts article is a good one, and I agree that there is room to display this kind of information. It's just a matter of the best way to do so without adding to the confusion. I think individual notes on articles when there is massive redistricting, is the best approach, like that used in Bart_Stupak's article.Dcmacnut (talk) 16:10, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Richard Nixon

He served between 1950 and 1953, not 1949 and 1951, is there a way to change that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethan c.00 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Rotate House tables?

With the large number of House districts in California, even going back several decades, one has to scroll horizontally quite a bit. It seems to me it would be more sensible to pivot the tables 90°, with the Congresses (110th, 111th, 112th, etc.) as the columns and the districts as rows. That would put California out of sync with other states, but no other state has ever had 50+ districts. (The closest any other state has gotten was New York with 45, from 1933 to 1953.) Of course, any state with even 10 districts would likely benefit from a similar reorientation.

On the other hand, the new tables would take less total screen area, since the decrease in width would be greater than the increase in height, plus the major advantage of allowing most users to scroll through the entire article linearly instead of having to zigzag. It would also make it much less confusing to edit the tables, since the Nth district rep's would all be grouped together, instead of all the new rep's of the Nth Congress.

Here's what it might look like (showing just the first 5 districts, for the current decade): Lincmad (talk) 23:46, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

District	108th Congress (2003–2005)		109th Congress (2005–2007)		110th Congress (2007–2009)		111th Congress (2009–2011)		112th Congress (2011–2013)
1st	Mike Thompson (D)
2nd	Wally Herger (R)
3rd	Doug Ose (R)		Dan Lungren (R)
4th	John T. Doolittle (R)						Tom McClintock (R)
5th	Robert T. Matsui (D)		Doris Matsui (D)

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Harris & Padilla

Note: If Harris doesn't resign by noon EST on January 3, 2021 as US Senator? She'll be a US Senator at the beginning of the 117th US Congress. GoodDay (talk) 20:59, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Picture of Dianne

This page needs a more recent picture of Feinstein. 100.11.111.39 (talk) 02:25, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Congressional residences

There are at least a couple of errors in the residences of members of the current delegation.

Doug LaMalfa, in District 1, is from the tiny town of Richvale, not Oroville. And Darrell Issa, in District 48, is--according to the infobox in his Wikipedia article--a resident of Vista, not San Diego.

I thought it would be a simple matter to edit these entries in the table, but there's no indication of how to do so. Can someone help? Rontrigger (talk) 11:50, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

This article pulls the table from California's congressional districts, so any edits made to that table will apply to both pages. Emk9 (talk) 16:59, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I see now what I overlooked. Rontrigger (talk) 21:26, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

It comes from the US House website, so do not change it unless there's a mismatch between the two. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 08:14, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

The House website is of no use. I clicked there on Doug LaMalfa and the only mention of his hometown, backing up my edit to Richvale, is in a press release. (In fact, the only links in that website are to press releases and other pro-member propaganda!) I know that Richvale is correct because it's identified in several biographical pieces (such as LinkedIn, the Los Angeles Times and his local newspaper, the Chico Enterprise-Record). He was BORN in Oroville and likely that's where the nearest hospital is to Richvale, where LaMalfa still is the (fourth-generation!) owner and operator of the family rice farm. (I myself was born and raised in similar circumstances.) Congressional hometowns need to be verified through (at least minimal) research. Rontrigger (talk) 22:45, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

I think I'm not clear enough, so let me explain. If you can back it up with a WP:RS, go for it with an inline citation. Otherwise, House website is the most reliable source we've got. If it says a member resides somewhere, there is at least some truth to it. Maybe the member hasn't lived there in ages, but he has some property there anyways, or something like that. But, we can't go adding original research (WP:NOR) for which there is no evidence. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 22:55, 17 June 2023 (UTC)